"Come on, come on"
There's nothing like seeing a card drop to the felt (be it real fuzzy padded stuff or just green electrons) that gives you the stone-cold nuts. Many of us playing brick-and-mortar poker have to practice not grinning from ear to ear, jumping out of our seats, or otherwise announcing our joy.
Even if we manage to control our facial expressions and body movements, sometimes our glee translates directly to our hand and we shove extra chips into the pot (or click the "Raise" button) without thinking. This is especially true on the river. I mean, it's why some of us play poker – that feeling that we get when the draw that we've been waiting on arrives on the last card. There it is – the deuce of hearts that gives you the ace-high flush. That big pile of chips in the middle of the table is all yours; it's just a question of how much more of your opponents' money you can get into it before you have to show them your hand.
But sometimes you shouldn't be so quick to put that raise in. "Huh? I've got the nuts on the river; why wouldn't I put in a raise?" There are two reasons I can think of immediately; see if you can think of them before you read further.
SFX: Mary Chapin Carpenter on the stereo
OK – we're back. Here are two examples: one in which raising is almost certainly wrong, and one in which it was correct to call, although it wasn't obvious that was the right play.
Here's the easy one: How often have you seen a player bet all in on the river, and the next guy raise? Now, everybody folds, the dealer pushes the second bet back to the raiser (since the bettor is all in for one bet), and the raiser turns up the absolute nuts. Nice hand, sir; well played. Let's think about this. Sure, it's possible that people would have come in for two bets cold on the river, but not very likely. Indeed, our hero probably shut out a bet or two that he could have picked up by just calling and letting other people into the pot. And if he got really lucky, maybe a raise would come in behind him … but I'm getting ahead of myself.
For our second example, I call your attention to the following hand I played online. I was in the big blind with the J
10
. There was an early-position call, and it was folded to the small blind (SB), who raised. I called, as did the limper. The flop came a semiamazing 7
8
K
. (The flop is shown here exactly the way the cards came out, because the first two cards I saw were the 7
and the 8
.) For half a second, I dreamt of flopping an unbeatable straight flush. The king disappointed me only a little. I figured that I had at least 12 outs. The SB bet out, and I called, wanting the limper to help build pot odds for me. He cooperated by calling. The 5 on the turn was disappointing, as was the SB's bet. But, we both called.
I don't ever remember the 9
looking as beautiful as it did when it popped up on the river. And the SB bet again.
So I … Well, wait a minute. He just bet out again. That card should have terrified him – unless he had something like the A
K
(which would, of course, be great for me). But that was a monster under the bed (of course, I had a bigger, meaner monster in my closet). And surely the limper was calling with something.
So, I did something radical: I called with the nuts.
Imagine my delight when the limper suddenly raised! And then the SB, the original bettor, promptly folded. I said to my computer monitor, "I'm a genius!" as I clicked the "Raise" button. The limper called and showed A-6 offsuit; somehow, he'd stood all that heat to make a one-card straight that was far from being the best hand.
Now, what did the SB have? We'll never know. But I imagine it was something like top pair – or maybe Q-Q that was obviously no good when he was called and then raised on the river. So, it's not clear that I made the right play by calling (except in the rearview mirror, which doesn't count). Had the bettor had the A
K
, I would have looked like an idiot when the limper folded and I collected one bet when I easily could have collected four.
So, it's not always obvious what the correct play is in a situation like this. And it's worth noting that if you're not sure what to do, it probably doesn't matter what you do. This is a corollary to the Tommy Angelo theorem, which states that the longer two groups dispute a fine point of poker play, the less it matters what you actually do in that situation.
But that's true only if you stop and think before you raise – even if you have the nuts on the river.
"It's gettin' late now" ![]()
Lee is the poker room manager for PokerStars.com, and the author of the best-selling book Winning Low-Limit Hold'em.
Ted Forrest Vol. 18, No. 18
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Top Poker Pros, Hollywood Stars Invest in Card Player
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Pot-Limit Blind Defense
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World Championship 2005
by Bob Ciaffone
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Ted Forrest: The Education of a Suicide King
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It's Time to Make it Clean!
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Great Poker Movie Quotes
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Inside Suggestions from One Who Has Been There
by Jan Fisher
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Bluffing in the World Series of Poker Main Event – Part I
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Poker, Poker, and More Poker
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An Unbelievable Winning Hold'em Hand
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Releasing Quality Hands in Tournaments
by Tom McEvoy
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Playing Poker for a Living
by Mike Sexton
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Your Dual Goal for the Start of the Football Season
by Chuck Sippl
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Ten Common and Costly Hold'em Errors – Part IV
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The Queen of Diamonds
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A Well-Played $15-$30 Hold'em Hand
by Jim Brier
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GIGSE '05: Online Poker the Star of the Show!
by Roy Cooke
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The Best Poker Player in the World Is ….
by Greg Dinkin
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Almost There with Success and Failure
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The Finals: Chris Ferguson Vs. Phil Hellmuth – Part III
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Calling on the River with the Nuts
by Lee H. Jones
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The War Room
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Game Theory and Poker: An Introduction
by Matt Matros
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Another $500,000 Pot-Limit Omaha Challenge
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Can Someone Give Me a Hand Over Here
by Joe Sebok
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Big Demi – Part II
by Max Shapiro
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Vegas Meets Hollywood at the Phat Farm Stuff Casino Weekend Poker Tournament
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Socrates Taught Me to Keep Asking Questions
by Roy West
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A Few Omaha Simulations – Part 1