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Daniel Negreanu’s Woes Continue on High Stakes Poker

Tom Dwan Benefits from Kid Poker’s Mistimed Bluff

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Daniel NegreanuDaniel Negreanu has lost a lot of money on High Stakes Poker.

To be fair, the four-time bracelet winner has been incredibly unlucky. Over the history of the popular television cash-game series, he has lost a six-figure amount to opponents holding quads on three different occasions. And that’s just a small sample of the big hands he’s run into, not to mention the times his hands couldn’t hold up in big pots.

On Sunday’s episode of High Stakes Poker, Negreanu couldn’t help but relieve himself of most of his stack again — although this time, it wasn’t luck that did him in. It was a couple of misreads and the unfortunate happenstance of squaring off against the one and only Tom Dwan.

Negreanu was active throughout the episode, playing a major role in about half of the hands that were televised. He even started off the show by winning the first hand, flopping a boat with his pocket threes against Andrew Robl and his AHeart Suit 3Heart Suit, who unluckily caught some of the QClub Suit QSpade Suit 3Club Suit board.

But Robl, who got himself into trouble later on in the episode against Patrik Antonius, was actually able to get out of the hand without too much damage after the action on the flop went check-check. Robl called a small $6,200 bet by Negreanu on a 2Diamond Suit turn, but was smart enough to check behind after Negreanu checked the 6Diamond Suit river.

Kid Poker, clearly hoping to induce a bluff out of the young Robl, was gently derided by his tablemates after the hand for his play.

“You can never be too careful,” Dwan ribbed, after Negreanu pretended to shoot himself in the head to display his displeasure with how he played the hand.

“Nice game we have over here,” Antonius added, eliciting laughter out of the group.

But while Negreanu might have gotten paid off with a river bet on that hand, he took the criticism in stride as he happily raked in a modest pot.

Tom DwanHis demeanor was a little less cheerful after he tried to pull a move on Dwan twice later on in the episode — failing each time.

In the first notable hand, six players ponied up the price of a $1,600 straddle to see a flop. Dwan was the biggest beneficiary of the QDiamond Suit 3Heart Suit 2Diamond Suit flop, hitting two-pair with the modest QHeart Suit 2Spade Suit that he called from the big blind. He bet out $5,400 into the $11,000 pot, only to see Negreanu raise to $12,800 with his AHeart Suit 3Diamond Suit. Dennis Phillips invested about 20 percent of his remaining stack with a call with his open ended straight draw with 5Spade Suit 4Club Suit, but Dwan quickly ended the party by repopping the action up to $48,400.

Negreanu and Phillips both folded, sending the pot to durrrr.

Negreanu was able to recoup some of his losses the very next hand after he flopped the nuts with his ADiamond Suit QHeart Suit on a KHeart Suit JClub Suit 10Club Suit board against Dwan, who flopped top pair with his KSpade Suit 9Spade Suit. But Negreanu only bet on the flop, deciding to check both a scary 8Club Suit turn and the QDiamond Suit that came on the river. Dwan checked behind both times to lose a small pot, but let Negreanu know, “You could’ve won a decent sized pot there,” saying that he’d probably call a turn or river bet, if not both.

Negreanu showed that he wasn’t afraid to put his chips in the middle in the final hand of the episode. Unfortunately, for him, it was against Dwan when he had the nuts.

Negreanu opened to $6,500 before the flop with an adventurous JDiamond Suit 8Spade Suit during Dwan’s straddle hand, but Dwan upped the price of admission to $23,600 after he peeked at his ASpade Suit KDiamond Suit. Negreanu called.

The flop came AHeart Suit ADiamond Suit JHeart Suit, and Dwan fired out a $28,200 continuation bet. Negreanu called again.

After a KClub Suit turn gave Dwan the nuts, the New Jersey pro declined to slow down — putting out a $56,600 bet into the $106,200 pot. That’s when Negreanu made his biggest mistake of the night. Hoping to rep a monster, Kid Poker raised to $138,600, leaving himself only about $140,000 behind. Dwan, showing his keen instincts, just called to try to get Negreanu to take one final shot on the river.

The PokerStars pro finally gave up though, waving the white flag and sending the $383,400 pot over to Dwan.

Andrew RoblWhile Negreanu had a tough outing this week, he wasn’t the only one.

Robl, a solid online pro, got felted when got the last of his money in with ASpade Suit QHeart Suit against Antonius’ AHeart Suit AClub Suit. The two players decided to run it twice, though Robl joked that “maybe four times would be better,” referencing the time he improbably won a huge pot off Antonius in an Aussie Millions cash game when he was way behind in a PLO hand. That time, they ran it four times and Robl came from behind each time to win the pot.

This time, however, Robl was not as fortunate. Neither of the two boards helped him, and he slid his stack over to the Finnish pro before rebuying.

In next week’s episode, Phil Laak joins the party. For a recap of that episode and every episode of High Stakes Poker this season, check back to CardPlayer.com every Monday.

 
 
 
 

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seamarfan269
almost 12 years ago

Calling raises with J8o and hitting a Jack on a AAJ board vs. AKo is VERY UNLUCKY....lol. "my 2 cents"

 
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herbiemontalbano
almost 12 years ago

Based on his overall play on High Stakes if DN did not have the poker celebrity factor behind him he would be considered a total imbecile...he raises when he shouldn't. He calls when he shouldn't. He does a ton of things he shouldn't. Apparently, he is not the READER he proclaims he is. Granted, he had a few coolers with his massive loses, but his overall play on HSP sucks. The only guy that is worse than him is Sammy..that guy is pathetic. Durr on the other hand has DN for breakfast, lunch and dinner..this kid has king kong balls to go along with a bunch of good flops. But he knows how to maximize.

Sorry Daniel but you truly aren't as good as you think you are as you have repeatedly demonstrated time and again on HSP you propensity for horrible decisions and getting in hands you shouldn't have been in, in the first place.

You need to thank the good lord for 2004 as without it...well you know.

 
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hitking1
almost 12 years ago

King Kong Balls??? Are you serious?? Youre an idiot. Dwan is the biggest luck sak ive ever seen ,he has a permanent dent in his forehead where the deck continues to hit him. He is the most pathetic human ever. He tries those BS moves and either the deck bailes him out with miracles or on very rare ocassion the best hand wins then he makes some sarcastic comment about how the other plkayer got "lucky". He has "that" smell even through the TV. I think you know what i mean. He is the worst. As soon as his luckbag is empty he will be broke. Just look how he dumped over 6 million to Isildur1, perfect example. DWAN< IS A JOKEEEEEEEEEEEEE

 
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Venable
almost 12 years ago

Funny thing is, Daniel has'nt lost a fkn dime! Does anyone think he actually plays with any of his own money? He's losing money that pokerstars put up for him that they of course steal from thier millions of customers! Watching these high stakes games is designed to attract the masses of unsuspecting kids onto the poker sites so that they can get raped also!

 
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herbiemontalbano
almost 12 years ago

Hitking...I do concur with Durr being lucky...but the kid does maximize his earning potential when he does get lucky and does have King Kong size balls...on the other hand DN persistently makes horrible calls,reads, raises, non raises, etc on HSP...that cannot be denied.

Personally, I like DN and think he is a good guy...I think he has done wonderful things for poker..he just sucks on HSP.

I also concur that Durr may one day go bust but the fact remains he owns DN on HSP.

 
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thumper2010
almost 12 years ago

Daniel is losing jokerstars money. They steal it from players on their bingo poker site with runner runner miracles. Serves dn right he's not playing on jokerstars where j8 off wins most of the time. they need to regulate online poker. alot of these guys would go bye bye. I think dn would do well to play tourneys only. I personally root for him, that being said it's getting hard to root for a loser and jokerstars supporter.

 
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TXMaxx
almost 12 years ago

Daniel is getting as bad at playing poker as phil helmuth...maybe a rest and relax break from the game Daniel?

 
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herbiemontalbano
almost 12 years ago

Hitking...I fogot a PS.

P.S. Go f--k yourself

 
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Prieure
almost 12 years ago

What a lot of spite, on the day you guys sit on HSP and win bracelets then maybe you can be as nasty as that.

Dwan is a great player, at cash games, in tourneys, not so much. Yeah he's lucky but to just say that misunderstands most of Supersystem, he puts himself in the position to get lucky, and when he does he gets paid off, not so long ago he dropped millions, because of the same style so it's swings and roundabouts.

DN is a great player, at tournaments, try arguing with his results, it's not long since he was sitting at the WSOPE main event final table which is one of the hardest tourneys in the world and he won a bracelet not that long ago.

Maybe DN should stick to tourneys but he's a PS sponsored player, if they pay for him to play, then why the hell wouldn't he?

Always nice to be a frustrated poker player and spout anonymous venom as if you know everything huh?

As for DN on HSP, J8o, are you serious? If he tightens up and stops trying to play so loose maybe that would stem the leak of money, as it is I don't see how he can win this season playing like he was this week.

 
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Prieure
almost 12 years ago

Oh and quit with the claims about cheating in online poker, it's old, and when Pokerstars had a scandal with their WCOOP winner 'thevoid' that was fixed instantly and yet people still line up to play at the site that had many cheaters and still hasn't explained itself.

It just sounds like more bitter stuff from failed players who just like to claim that cheating goes on at Pokerstars because they lose all their money playing like donkeys.

Yawn, change the record and try improving your game rather than making stupid claims, or prove it..........can't huh? Then shut up!

 
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KingaDimuns
almost 12 years ago

It's prety obvious that DN has taken some bad beats on HSP. It is also clear that his play is questionable. But look at the hands that Tom Dwan plays. J8o is usually ahead of Dwan's range. I mean, he doesn't need an ace in his hand to raise preflop, not by any means. But this is why his game works so well. The guy is really hard to put a read on, and he's always firing with nothing. if DN was up against anyone else, the hand would have played differently. can't fault him too much.

 
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raiseitup1983
almost 12 years ago

DN has been outclassed in HSP for the past few seasons and I think all the beats he has taken on that show has let it effect some tough decisions in that game. Having said that DN is no slouch on the table not only does he have 4 bracelets to his name but he also is #1 in all time money leaders. When it comes to the cash games even he himself has admitted that his dedication to the tournament trail has kept him from being one of the best cash game players and he is working on getting better and playing lots of hands online to do that. Check his twitter as he is playing 100/200 on pokerstars almost everyday now. So before you talk about how horrible he is I think we all know that when he puts his mind to it he can the best at whatever he wants to be.

 
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maxima191
almost 12 years ago

Daniel Negreanu needs to take a break from poker-He lost his mother a couple of months ago and needs to focus a bit.
Hopefully he will find redemption at the WSOP.

 
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hitking1
almost 12 years ago

And by the way Herbie, F U 2. Im sure you are just Dwans type. He even smells g** through the TV. Could he be more merry?. Also i didnt say a word about DN. He does play bad, i just stated that Dwan suks and is the luckiest p***k ive ever seen

 
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hitking1
almost 12 years ago

The sign of a good player is not to Bi*ch and complain and make sarcastic comments when they get drawn out on. Its a one way street with Dwan, he continues to draw out on his opponents time after time after time but when they do it to him on that rare ocassion , he acts like a little c**t and all he can do is be a little smelly F** that he is

 
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Uncle_Harvey
almost 12 years ago

DN and Dwan are both better poker players than any of us posting on this board. Thats why we are reading about them and they are on TV. DN has had some crazy bad beats and Dwan has got real lucky. DN has also made a few bad plays and let his emotions get in the way of good play a few times. I enjoy watching both of these guys play and do not find the need to hate ether of them. What kind of screw up do you have to be to call these guys names when you do not even know them?

 
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Mr. Honest
almost 12 years ago

I have to pretty much agree with what most all of you are saying except one. DN has gone from world class to slightly above average and Dwan has huge brass witch these days makes you a donk. So when the deck hits him in the face he is going to get paid big time. NLH has gotten rediculously hard to play and even harder to maintain a winning record. The one guy I dont agree with is the one standing up for Poker Stars. I'm up overall on Stars in both tourney play and sit&go's (I dont play cash games becuase I suck at them) However Poker Stars card integrity is awful and I dont care what anyone says. I used to play $100 tourney's on up but I only play $33 tourney's on down these days becuase thats all its worth.GL to everyone!

 
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vikingpete_99
almost 12 years ago

does Daniel N need to be involved in every poker TV production made?? i agree he needs to refocus on his game and less on making PS a media machine...it's getting old

as for Dwan, i wanna see any of you clowns that diss him bluff Ivey with 9 high. he's got balls...big ol' brass balls. the luckbox thing could be said for any player. he has made more money off HUGE successful bluffs than most of you will see in a lifetime. i say ride that "luck" for as long as it will take you. they been saying he would run outta luck for the last two years and guess what??? still here.

 
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fundtime
almost 12 years ago

This is the 6th year of high stakes poker 2 sessions per episode about 12 days daniel has played. He is 0 for 12. He is clearly the worst regular cash game player in HSP. If he did not recieve income from pokerstars he would be broke.

 
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pl2000
almost 12 years ago

I wouldn't say Daniel is the worse in HSP history, I would give that to Phil Helmulth. I can't fault daniel for raising with J8 in a straddled pot with potentially more "dead" money. Any good player knows if you are the first one entering a pot you can come in raising with 72 and that would be ok. What was bad was calling a re-raise. Something interesting I've followed is that most of the really good players rarely bluff, but the average to bellow average player always thinks they are bluffing since they are capable. So far Ivey has bluffed only one time with 72 when he got bored. Negreauno's and Helmuths downfall is that they discuss at the table what they are thinking amongst experts. Phil Helmuth gets off on trapping someone with the nuts so because of that gets out drawn all the time. Negreauno states what he's thinking and can't realize that experts will out think him then. He guesses your hand out loud every hand and then once he's correct dunces say he's a genius. Tom Dwan is one of the best I've seen. For his style of play I honestly haven't seen him make a mistake once apart from Barry Greenstein when he put his money in bad (and luckily won) The future of poker Ivey, Dwan and Antonious. Their bankrolls are at the level where losing a million doesn't effect their sleep. That's a huge advantage and allows them to simply follow their instinct. Another bad player was sammy farha. He has the same range as Dwan, but his calling with rags is to try to get a lucky flop. Dwan's calling with rags is with the intention of outplaying the opponent when scare cards hit. Big difference

 
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Fats_NY
almost 12 years ago

Never underestimate these player's comprehension of bankroll management. No matter how bad the cards fall these players will never go broke because there simply too good for that.So get used to seeing Durrr raise $130,000 with 8 high.If he's got the nerve to do it , more power to him.

 
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ig_rounder
almost 12 years ago

Durrrr KQs against Greenstein's AA on that flop was a coin flip, so i wouldn't call that putting the money in bad, nor would i call that a mistake.

 
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stray89
almost 12 years ago

First of all, Richenough, who are YOU to make such ignorant judgments on so many renowned players? I mean, those players obviously have had a lot of success in poker because they know a great deal about the game. Just because their career may be on a high or a low does not change the fact that are good players. Whatever success you have in poker, which I'm sure is moderate, does not qualify you to pass such cynical judgment on players leaps and bounds beyond your level.

Second of all, what reason does PokerStars have to rig games? It's not blackjack or roulette. 90% of the money is passed between players. They don't care who wins as long as they get their rake. It would be stupid for them to rig it because if they were ever found out, they'd lose all of their business.

 
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Mr. Honest
almost 12 years ago

I dont think Poker Stars is rigged by Poker Stars. I think the notion of a Randomly generated deck is off. Its more of a video game then a randomly generated shuffle and Poker Stars puts way to much faith in it. Not to mention they are unbelievibly arogante. Thats all Im saying

 
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herbiemontalbano
almost 12 years ago

Does Durr actually smell bad? I only ask as I have seen several comments on it. Intresting...

 
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1Acehigh
almost 12 years ago

HSP was filmrd around 11-13-09 NOT A YR ago. To the guy that said they were filmrd a yr ago. And IMO durrrr IS Soooo FKnnn LCKY. But that COLD deck hasn't HIt durrrrballs yet. It will come durrrrball...

 
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1Acehigh
almost 12 years ago

And yes viling99 DN and Mike Matusow think they should be on every TV show and poker table that Is telivised along with Phil Hellmuth of course...

 
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