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More Details On Poker Pro Phil Ivey's Alleged Cheating While Playing Baccarat At The Borgata

Casino Alleges That He Gained Unlawful Advantage In Game

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Poker pro Phil Ivey is facing a lawsuit from an Atlantic City casino for allegedly cheating the house out of $9.6 million during a series of trips in 2012.

Ivey has been accused of spotting manufacturing defects in the cards while playing baccarat at The Borgata Hotel Casino. The suit also named the manufacturer of the cards, Gemaco Inc. of Blue Springs, MO. In addition, Ivey’s alleged accomplice, Cheng Yin Sun, was named in the complaint. Sun allegedly accompanied Ivey and gave instructions to the dealers.

In April 2012, Ivey first contacted Borgata about a visit to play baccarat for high stakes. “Because of his notoriety as a high-stakes gambler, and the amount of money he intended to gamble, Ivey was able to negotiate special arrangements," the 58-page complaint said.

The casino said that Ivey requested a private pit, a dealer who spoke Mandarin Chinese, one eight-deck shoe of purple Gemaco Borgata playing cards to be used for the entirety of each session, as well as an automatic card shuffling device to be used to shuffle the cards after each shoe was dealt. According to the complaint, Ivey said it was because he’s superstitious.

“Ivey misrepresented his motive, intention and purpose and did not communicate the true reason for his requests to Borgata at any relevant time,” the casino alleged. “Ivey’s true motive, intention, and purpose in negotiating these playing arrangements was to create a situation in which he could surreptitiously manipulate what he knew to be a defect in the playing cards.”

The BorgataThe technique Ivey was accused of using to gain an advantage over Borgata, called “edge sorting,” is the same one he was accused of using against Crockfords Casino in the United Kingdom in August 2012. Crockfords decided to withhold $12.1 million of Ivey’s winnings. The poker pro eventually decided to sue Crockfords, later admitting that he did notice defects in the cards, but that it wasn’t actually cheating. That case is still pending over in London.

The technique “exploits manufacturing defects in playing cards in order to ‘mark’ cards without the player actually touching, defacing, or placing a physical mark on the cards,” the Borgata lawsuit said. “During play, Ivey and Sun used the accommodations they requested from Borgata to ‘turn’ strategically important cards so that they could be [distinguishable].”

Borgata said that the edge sorting “changed the overall odds of the game from an approximate 1.06 percent house advantage to an approximately 6.765 percent advantage for Ivey.”

Borgata is also seeking a judgment against Gemaco for “breach of contract”, among other allegations, for “delivering defective and asymmetrical cards that were unsuitable for baccarat.”

The federal lawsuit was filed April 9, and as of April 16 the 38-year-old Ivey had not issued a public statement in response to the alleged cheating in Atlantic City, the town in which he got his first taste of casino gambling during the mid-1990s.

Ivey’s official Twitter account did retweet a link to an article with the headline, “Top-10 reasons Phil Ivey’s baccarat play shouldn’t be called cheating.”

No criminal charges have been filed against Ivey.

Ivey, winner of nine World Series of Poker bracelets, has earned more than $30 million from playing poker—live and online—during his storied career.

 
 
 
 

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Zack2
5 years ago

so im sure ivey did his absolute best to push the boundaries into his favor. im sure he picked those casinos for certain reasons and blah blah blah. even if he was "cheating" he did not get caught during live play. not once do i read someone was standing over him watching what was going on. to me it sounded like those two casinos didnt have management with balls to limit ivey on what he could and couldnt do. they knew he was a way better than average bacc player so why not neg better terms. once those terms are set for each side, then thats the casinos fault for letting ivey gain the % in his favor. just the fact that there is press that a casino is not paying out a player his winnings looks really bad. Borgata might be the one truly well run casino in ac so i hope they have a really strong case against ivey, since they already had that chip gate saga. although on the other hand, if its proven ivey cheated, his rep is going to take a huuuge hit. u see how bad the rating were for the masters without tiger, kinda would be the same for poker if ivey were to distance himself from the game. we all root for him to win or make it far but we wont root for a cheater or n alleged one with a good case around it. in the end, i think he will win though, but who knows all the details

 
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KnowThyS3lf
5 years ago

Hey Zack2, great post. I'm amazed at how he made the casino the typical gambler; he stuck them for a lot of money, so they were scrambling and hoping to win that money back and when all else failed, they resort to a frivolous lawsuit crying foul. Based on their explanation, if these casinos succeed in their lawsuit, there should be an all out boycott to stop playing at these casinos and end the slots and table games to Macau and other countries: only use casinos for a motel 6. Lol. I know that I will personally review this story as it unfolds and to show how the casino is the biggest cheat ever. If the casinos win for their own mistakes, I vow that I will make it my business to stop as many people as I can from continuing to gamble at a disadvantage. Ivey was the shark and the Borgata and Croksford were the two fishes in this. Chalk your losses up to experience fishies. LMAO!

 
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Muhammad
almost 5 years ago

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Alex24
5 years ago

^ "...way better than average bacc player..." There is no such thing. Dealt bacc for a long time, its a random ordering of 4-6 cards, no skill. He fully admitted to edge-sorting in London, and its pretty apparent that he requested cards he knew to have edge defects.

 
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Muhammad
almost 5 years ago

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Chzzzz
5 years ago

Advantage play is not cheating. It is taking advantage of weakness in procedures, equipment, dealing technique, and percentage swings that already exist in casinos. What he did stretches the definition of legitimate advantage play. He made requests and misrepresented why he wanted these things done.
This case will revolve around Ivey's requests and how he represented them. His requests: 1) A particular set of cards and shuffle machine. His representation- I am superstitious. Real reason- After the decks are set to be read I don't want that changed. 2) Mandarin speaking dealer. His representation- My companion speaks Mandarin and I want her to be comfortable. Real reason- She instructs the dealer to rotate cards without supervision realizing what she was saying. 3) Asking to rotate 7s, 8s, 9s in order gain an advantage in subsequent shoes. His representation- I am superstitious. Real reason- Knowing the first card of a hand is a 7, 8, 9 gives the customer a 20% advantage and knowing it is something else gives the player a 1% advantage.
Ivey will say I asked and they complied.
Don Johnson made requests for cash back that gave him an overall advantage that he knew about and the casino didn't realize.
Doesn't the responsibility of knowing what effect the things agreed to, will have on house advantage, rest with the casino ?

 
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donquix437
5 years ago

How can it be cheating if he never touched the cards? He merely found a flaw the house didn't notice and used the information to win. What was he supposed to do say hey your cards are defective oh and by the way please take all my money. If it were turned around you think the house would tell you if you doing something that helped them beat you?

 
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texasroadgambler
5 years ago

If I were booking it, I would make Ivey a 13-10 dog.

 
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texasroadgambler
5 years ago

If I were booking it, I would make Ivey a 13-10 dog.

 
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AceupmySlv
5 years ago

Ivey will lose this case without question due to his misrepresentations of what he asked for. If he had never admitted to noticing the defects (which unfortunately would also result in perjuring himself if asked that question in a court of law) and never made any representations about why he wanted certain things prior to the game (if he just asked for these things and never gave a reason why and they complied anyway), then he may have had a case. As it is, he is more of a 3/1 to 5/1 dog he comes out ahead in this case.

 
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shakhtar
5 years ago

I'd make an out of court settlement the -400 favorite. The casino has a big edge in money, legal reps, friendly judges, and most importantly, time. Ivey is no dummy, and his time is much too valuable then to sit in a courtroom over and over, especially since no matter what happens, it will likely get appealed. We'll probably get an undisclosed settlement for far less than 9 mil with no admission of wrongdoing,and both sides can paint themselves as a winner.

 
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pokertruth
5 years ago

Is ivey a cheat or is he a victim? You decide.
Request a complete copy of the filed 58 page lawsuit complaint at
rmo1943@me,com

 
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NoFear
5 years ago

Unfortunately for Phil there is now a pattern vs. a one-time incident. Most gamblers would side with Phil since the Casino's knowingly take an edge over players, and when they can't have an edge(such as with card counting in blackjack) they bar the player from playing - in other words they fix it to their advantage. And if a player is making dumb moves, such as hitting a 16 vs. a dealer 6, they will say nothing and take full advantage of the sucker. This may help Phil if it goes to a jury trial. However, it is a big risk since he can be painted as a very shrewd gambler who knowingly set out to defraud the casinos and the amount of money he won will not resonate with the average juror. The casino may want to make an example of Phil to warn others not to try anything similar, so they may be reluctant to settle, I don't know. Phil may feel the worst case is he loses and has to pay the money back, I don't know. But I find it fascinating that he discovered a flaw. I wonder how much money he lost playing baccarat before discovering a way to beat them? Is he net up or net down?

 
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Muhammad
almost 5 years ago

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Jonathan13
over 4 years ago

The casino is at fault here. They had every chance to examine the cards before they were put into play. They had every chance to deny Phil any of his requests. They had the chance to not be greedy. But instead they waited until after play had ceased, then decided there was a problem. This is wrong and this is the problem with casinos. If the casino had the knowledge that a player is intoxicated and making poor decisions, does that not give the casino an unfair edge against the player. But they don't stop the game or give the player his money back the next day. So why should someone who figured out an advantage to the game be responsible for giving anything back after winning.

 
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Eric37
over 4 years ago

Its called gambling. If you and I set up the rules and conditions of the game and both agree to them, then it's legit. Just because you lose, you can't cry and say ohhh wait that wasn't fair cause im dumb and didnt realize YOU had a better chance at winning than I did!!! I shoulda won cuz I started off with the better house advantage but then I agreed to your rules and that gave YOU the advantage! Lmao you're in the business of gambling!

Know your business and quit your bitching. What if all the people who lose billions each year at casinos sued because they realized AFTER the fact that the House had an unfair advantage during the game they played...knowing what the rules were and still agreed to gamble, lost, and handed over their paychecks and savings cause they're mature enough to know what they got themselves into. Jeez...atleast he took house money and not millions from unsuspecting players who didn't know or agree to his terms. Sore losers...

 
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