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Has Obama sold us out?

by Lee Watkinson |  Published: Dec 19, '09

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I have done nothing but heap praises on President Obama for the last couple years based upon what he has said he was going to do and what he believed in, but now I am starting to have some doubts. It would appear he is allowing the people who voted for him to be sold down the river.

This healthcare bill that is about to be passed is a joke, as I understand it. It’s idea of making sure everyone has insurance is forcing the young working man to buy from a for profit health insurance company. I bet most of this bill was written by the insurance lobbyist.

I know Obama has said he wanted true meaningful reform, but then to turn around and endorse this would seam to be selling out in my book.

Obama also slams the banks and wall street in his speeches, but now we have banks issuing credit cards with almost 80% interest rates while they are borrowing money from the Fed at o% interest and buying Tbills with it for a guaranteed profit, why risk making small business loans. He has appointed the usual wall street insiders to many important positions.

Congratulations wall street had record profits and the recession is over.

What I hope is that Obama has a grand plan. That he is like Mohamed Ali to the establishments George Foreman and he is doing the rope-a-dope, with something really great planned for the later rounds. If not, he is only marginally better than the rest of them and i am disgusted.

As far as international goes i think he is doing well. I have as little info about what is really going on in Afghanistan/Pakistan as most everyone else, so can not criticize his decision on how to best extricate ourselves from that mess.

Lee Watkinson has accumulated nearly $4 million in tournament winnings over his career. His accomplishments include a World Series bracelet in the 2006 $10,000 pot-limit Omaha event and an eighth-place finish in the 2007 WSOP main event. Lee is a Full Tilt Pro and uses his poker winnings to help a chimpanzee rescue charity. Learn more about Lee at his website, www.leewatkinson.com.

 
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treidsmint
almost 12 years ago

I wonder what kind of grand plan you think Obama would have. He has no experience in anyting but Chicago politics! I guess his grand plan has something to do with Socialism. Surely Lee you are smarter than that.

 
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sprinkboy
almost 12 years ago

Yes this clown Obama has sold out to big money. Hate the man.
That is why we needed Cliton as president. She would have used the HAMMER againsts the GOP and rammed universal health care down thier throats.
Obama is a one term president.Prepare for 8 more years of Republician hell.

 
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IHateLeeWatkinson
almost 12 years ago

Another insightful post by the dumbest man in poker. Lee, you have "little info about what is really going on" in the real world as a whole. You most likely have never worked for a living, cheated on your taxes like 99% of your poker playing buddies, and are just generally clueless about life. All you super lefties are finally finding out that Obama is there for himself and to make history: he doesn't give a damn about you or this country and he is just the puppet of the people really in control of this administration.

 
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BigDoggy
almost 12 years ago

For profit health insurance companies are not the enemy. Here are stats from the largest US insurance companies
Wellpoint - $61 billion revenue, $2.3 billion profit
Aetna - $33 billion rev, $1.3 billion profit
Humana - $30 billion rev, $1 billion profit
Cigna - $18 billion rev, $760 million profit.
Source> Yahoo finance

These aren't exorbitant profits.

We have a federal debt of about $12 trillion ($40,000 per person).
We have unrecorded federal debt of another $100 trillion from Medicare and Social Security.
Can we afford this health care plan?

 
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YakshaNZ
almost 12 years ago

I love it how Americans delude themselves into thinking it actually matters who the president is.

Follow the money, and you'll find the power. That's why all your social services are a joke, why 40% of Americans fall below the fed poverty line in any 10 year period... that's pretty embarassing. But hey, the upper 1% want more money and you just keep handing it over like a weedy 8 year old to a bully at lunch time.

One day you'll learn to create a properly functioning society.. we live in hope :P

 
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seamarfan269
almost 12 years ago

It takes a big man to admit he "MAY" be wrong. Nuff Said.

 
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y00h00180
almost 12 years ago

The conflict in Iraq and South Asia are not the only international issues. The State Department has successfully backed a military coup in overthrowing the elected president of Honduras. New U.S. bases are opening in the narco-state of Colombia with Venezuela's oil in mind. I thought this was Hillary "Kissinger"'s fault, but I don't know anymore either.
One thing is for certain, too much attention is going towards the ridiculous criticism coming from the right. Obama, as any president, SHOULD be criticized. Yet, people like you with REAL concerns are drowned out by these nut jobs.
He should be criticized for campaign promises he has broken, not ones he is keeping.

Anyone like allegories? Go see Avatar!

 
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y00h00180
almost 12 years ago

P.S. He said in his acceptance speech for the Nobel Prize that America has never waged war on a democratic country. I never dreamed, that when I voted for him, he was capable of saying such an outright lie.

 
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N4916B
almost 12 years ago

Believing that those socialists care for your healthcare is like believing the comps you get from the casino mean they care about you

 
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w1s3guy32
almost 12 years ago

The federal government is not your friend. The federal government does not have your best interests at heart and Obama is nothing more than a slick whistle mouthpiece for the ruling-class liberal elite who want to regulate every aspect of American life while shaking the money out of Uncle Sam's pocket. Obama is so far left on the political spectrum it's un-American. What the liberals are doing is unconstitutional and treasoness. Why anyone would want the federal governemt involved in anything other than protecting America from foreign invaders and protecting our property (and constitutional rights) is beyond me. The federal governemnt is not the answer to these problems they ARE the problem and the less government involvment in our lives, the better. Vote Libertarian and send these anti-America liberals packing. As for you Mr. Watkinson, your political views are allot like your poker game. Half rate.

 
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y00h00180
almost 12 years ago

RE: w1s3guy32

I can't imagine how you come to this thinking.

While government is far from perfect, the biggest problem is corporate corruption influencing it. To say the government can't be trusted, but corporations can, is ridiculous. At least the government is supposedly accountable to ALL the people instead of just the share holders. This is most critical when it comes to something as essential and necessary as health care. It is a right, a human right, that can not be denied to ANYONE. Remember "LIFE, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.."?

Tell me how health care is any less important than any of the many services govt. provides that we would NEVER trust to a corporation. Or are you outraged at government for telling you which side of the road you should drive on too?

Insurance companies are not only unnecessary, but they are parasites wedged into the fat folds our excessive society.

 
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stopit5
almost 12 years ago

insurance companies make much slimmer profit margins than most other industries- sorry fact denying liberals.

y00h00--what kind of public option did the people who wrote our founding documents have? and since you mentioned liberty-how is a bill that mandates i buy something i don't want giving me liberty? i could write 5 entries about your flawed logic, but i lack the time/desire.

if people were really interested in reforming health care/lowering costs the topics of tort reform and insterstate boundaries would certainly be addressed.

 
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texasroadgambler
almost 12 years ago

It's hard not to ridicule people who think that the Earth is 6,000 years old, that the Flintstones is based on a true story, and that African witch doctors can perform exorcisms that grant you special favors for elections.

But that has to be the case for anyone who voted for Sarah Palin, since she believes in such things. Do any of you bloggers here recognize yourselves?

But here's the bottom line for all of you ideologues that are opposed to health care refore:

Capitalism consists of two arms, labor and capital.

Capital provides the money to equip the factories, labor provides the manpower to operate the equipment. A simplicfication to be sure, but ideologues require simplification.

That means that the factories (capital) require a healthy labor force to operate their equipment. Without one, productivity suffers and capital return declines.

Currently under our health care system, health care is rationed, and the victims are most often the workers. It's just as simple as that. Arguing against health care refore is arguing against capitalism.

 
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texasroadgambler
almost 12 years ago

On another note, those of you blogging here who claim to be Libertarians are really nothing more than Nihilists. Anarchy is just a whisper away from your philosophy.

 
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texasroadgambler
almost 12 years ago

"reform" not "refore".

 
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stopit5
almost 12 years ago

texasroadgamble-isn't it fun to set up straw man arguments-so much easier to debate, and keeps your simple mind at ease. and yes, of course imposing new taxes on business will help business, that has always been the case! (rolls eyes at childish logic)

 
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texasroadgambler
almost 12 years ago

stopit5: I didn't intend for morons with no economics background to reply. So git now!!!

 
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TXMaxx
almost 12 years ago

The ever cluless Lee...Yep that's what you get voting for a socialist with commie and marxists friends and associates. obamna had no experience with anything but acorn and seiu, he was and is an exterme socialist who admits to wanting to destroy capitalist America...in his own words, no one has to interpet this for you. The fools who voted for this sicko deserve everything they get.

 
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w1s3guy32
almost 12 years ago

I embrace mainstream and moderate views of the Libertarian party where both federal and state governement play key rolls. Anarchists represent a miniscule fraction (less than 1%). I also disagree on a few main ingredients but you will also find Liberal and Social Libertarians. The bottom line is to reduce government, lower taxes and allow free markets to operate at full speed so we can once again realize a higher standard of living through prosperity and human innovation. Liberals only know how to stifle competition, by taxing the industruous and giving to those who aren't.

 
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texasroadgambler
almost 12 years ago

w1s3gut32: You have to be kidding? "...allow free markets to operate at full speed..."

Yeah, right!!! Allowing "free markets to operate at full speed" brought the world to the brink of economic collapse.

Think AIG, sub-prime mortgage scams, multi trillion dollar derative scams (bookmakers with a pad and pencil, but no bankroll) and multiple Ponzi schemes.

And where were you during this operation of the "free markets operating at full speed"?

Oh, I know, hiding behind an ideology that supports a philosophy as close to anarchy as you can get.

 
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w1s3guy32
almost 12 years ago

AIG's mess and predatory lending accross the board were a direct result of Bill Clinton's "affordable housing for everyone" crusade which allowed liberal lawmakers to open the floodgates to predatory lending itself by de-regylation and taxation.

Government is not the solution to your problems, goverment IS the problem with the economy (both parties) and this administration is not your salvation but the bullwork for the decline of western civilization. Therein you find your anarchists and survivalists who prepare for such an event.

Quit looking to your federal government to solve your problems and get to work like the generations before you that built this country and made it what it is with hard and determination.

You are entitled to nothing but an education, clean environments and open markets that provide the nexus of human innovation, prosperity and freedom to make your own choices in ife. Let our culture and society decide what is acceptable and not acceptable, not the federal government. The American people are what made this country great, not the US government. We made the US government, they don't make us.

 
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texasroadgambler
almost 12 years ago

w1s: Did anyone ever tell you that too much Kool-Aid was hazardous to your economic health? I guess not since you continue to humiliate yourself here with your ignorance of the function of the Federal government.

You say: "AIG's mess and predatory lending accross the board were a direct result of Bill Clinton's "affordable housing for everyone" crusade which allowed liberal lawmakers to open the floodgates to predatory lending itself by de-regylation and taxation." LOL

AIG's collapse was the direct result of the passage of the Commodities Modernization Act of 2000. This act exempted derivatives from Federal oversight and regulation. It was delivered by a Republican congress to Bill Clinton who signed it into law.

The banking collapse was also the result of this act as well as the repeal of the Glass-Steagal Act. I believe that occurred in December 1999. Also delivered by a Republican congress to Bill Clinton, who also signed this into law. This repeal had the effect of freeing the banks from their traditional role of lending, and let them enter the much more lucrative role of speculating. How do you like the result, since your on the hook for part of their speculative losses?

Yes, only the strong arm of the Federal government can save us from future financial disasters such as these, but the politicians are too cowardly to represent their constituents. Instead they bow to the will of the lobbyists and their masters, Wall Street.

 
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w1s3guy32
almost 12 years ago

You just described perfectly how one back is scratching the other in Washington and the buck stops with Bill Clinton.

Your argument has only served to further my postition that government is not the solution but in fact the very source of these problems.

 
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amoky
almost 12 years ago

w1s3guys32 knows what he is talking about, its the liberal america that is tearing apart our country at the seams, if any liberal would actually read the constitution or any of the documents and beliefs of the founding fathers they would understand we are headed down the wrong path under Obama

 
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texasroadgambler
almost 12 years ago

w1s3: While our corrupt government was complicit in the prior events that led to the current financial crisis, you remain puposely blind to "the elephant in the room."

Without the intervention of the Federal government, the financial systems of the world would have collapsed. Not that this is over yet, but at least the rush over the abyss was averted by their intervention.

All of you who are such ideologues that you cannot understand that polarizing the citizenry of this country is the road to the end of empire should have your right to vote revoked.

Unless you intend to move to the woods and become a survivalist, you owe your country the duty of being a part of a bipartisan effort to restore the co-operation necessary to "run this railroad".

 
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N4916B
almost 12 years ago

Its so scary to listen to liberals explain and justify how their fearless leaders will take us all to the promise land.
It really makes it easier to understand how history is filled with horrible socialist and communist regimes that have killed or starved hundreds of millions of people.
They all started with "let the government take care of you"

 
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texasroadgambler
almost 12 years ago

N4916B: Perhaps you should take a trip through the pages of world history before you come here with your biases and ignorance.

Your premise is that "They all started with "let the government take care of you" How ignorant you are of how those economic systems have come and gone over the history of the world. None of them were "started" from your false premise.

Let's just use the one that most Americans are familiar with: communism of the Soviet Union.

Communism in Russia arose from the intolerability of the economic conditions imposed upon the citizens by the Romanoff Czar. It was a revolution spawned by starving people. They could no longer tolerate being serfs.

Having said that, I am not an advocate of communism.

On the other hand socialism exists in various forms in many of the countries of the world today, including Western Europe.

It even exists here in limited circumstances. Ever hear of the Social Security System?

 
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w1s3guy32
almost 12 years ago

"Without the intervention of the Federal government, the financial systems of the world would have collapsed. Not that this is over yet, but at least the rush over the abyss was averted by their intervention."

Businesses that fail due to poor managment and /or fraud should be allowed to fail miserably and the world should feel the full force of the collapse. Only then will true innovation and a positive correction of the market occur.

Continuing to "intervene" (bailing out) failed businesses is the most fundemental "DON'T" in a free market, capatalist society.

So-called "progressives" (liberals) feel the need to analyze, regulate, tax and control every aspect of the free-market system which only serves to stifle and corrupt competition and rape/pilliage the wealth under the guise of "social justice".

 
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texasroadgambler
almost 12 years ago

w1s3guy32: Under your policy, the financial systems of the world would have been "allowed to fail miserably and the world would feel the full force of the collapse." Yes, that has been tried before, and it resulted in the Great Depression. It lasted for years, and eventually it took a World War to extricate ourselves from it.

You are nothing more than an ideologue with no sense of history, either cultural or economic.

Maybe you should contact Palin, and the two of you could have an exorcism by an African witch doctor? It's a cinch that you voted for her. LOL

 
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w1s3guy32
almost 12 years ago

Here we have a debate in which you claim a great deal of knowledge, yet instead of actually using that knowledge, you resort to name calling and comparing capatalism and those who defend the very ideal this country was founded upon to "voodoo".

You don't insult me by calling me an "ideologue" you insult the majority of the American people's intelligence.

This is typical of liberals who also resort to calling people racists if they oppose Obama or health-care reform.

 
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stopit5
almost 12 years ago

texas-you have no economics background-that much is clear by now to anyone with a background in economics, or anyone for that matter. you are the crazed ideologue you describe. oh, and the great depression would not have lasted so long if it had not been for many of the actions taken under fdr. oh, please stop talking about palin in every post no one has brought her up stop making straw men arguments. please stop

actually it's probably best if you just don't comment for a while

 
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texasroadgambler
almost 12 years ago

There's no doubt about this: Lee's blog is a strong Moron Magnet. Yep, just take a look at the posts of stopit5 and w1s3guy32.

They are struggling to parse my postings, but their limited mental abilities keep getting in their way.

Now you two guys just go on and GIT!!! Go on back to those trailer parks.

LOL

 
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y00h00180
almost 12 years ago

It appears, texasroadgamble, you can't explain morality or science to selfish ignoramuses. w1s3guy32 and stopit5 will always clutch to Fox's talking points.

As for w1s3guy32's preemptive defense against racist accusations, I think it is telling in its self. People of color are disproportionally effected by lack of health care. The TeaBaggers know it. That is why Glen Beck calls it
"reparations". Even IF insurance companies are wasteful, cruel, and corrupt they HATE the thought of tax money going to people of color. We can bail out all the wall street crooks we want with corporate welfare, but grab your gun when the government helps a black or an immigrant seek medical treatment. Goldman Sachs executives sleep well knowing this.

To be on the record, we should NOT be forcing individuals to give money to any corporation. That is why the current bill should be SCRAPPED and redone. Not only has Obama sold us out, but the majority of the majority of our representatives.

 
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y00h00180
almost 12 years ago

stopit5,
If insurance companies make such a razor thin profit then why are the able to buy out so many politicians? Heck, they've bankrolled an entire faux-grass roots army of radicals from thin air.
Surely they should be in another business if this is all required to protect "meager" profits. DON'T tell me they are in this business to help people.

 
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texasroadgambler
almost 12 years ago

y00h00180: I agree that the Health Care Bill in its current form is flawed, but it is a step forward. It should come as no surprise to anyone familiar with the functioning of the "good ol' boy" Senate that Faustian deals are made with the Devil.

But you and I know that the "longest journey begins with a single step." We need to take it.

Now you can expect a great deal of caterwauling from the Cretins who visit this blog once they determine the source of that quote. LOL

 
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texasroadgambler
almost 12 years ago

bmpek: Search around in my last post and see if you can find yourself there. You're in it.

 
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stopit5
almost 12 years ago

it's a fact that insurance companies make small profit margins, it's speculation that they buy politicians. In fact, they contribute money the way all other interests do, including ones you agree and disagree with.

as for texas i'm sure you'll respond with 5 more entries of flawed logic, but for your sake i think posting less entries might be beneficial to your health. also my education is, i'm sure, much more sophisticated than yours so please stop throwing insults around. you can't have it both ways, using redneck expressions like "git" while trying to act like an intellectual. get in touch with reality, your an uneducated southerner who watches too much olbermann and has created a faux internet life.

you crazy liberals need to get off your distorted liberal blogs where all that's discussed is fox news and palin, neither of which i'm a big fan. i've noticed that every blog attacking critics of this health care plan uses no valid arguments from the other side. your debating against an irrational opponent whom you've created. grow up, learn what the real criticisms are, lessen your ignorance.

 
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texasroadgambler
almost 12 years ago

stopit5: Pleased to see that I "get your goat". LOL From reading your posts here, and your grammar, I'm quite certain that you have an advanced GED. LOL

You say: "...but for your sake i think posting less entries might be beneficial to your health" Is that supposed to be some kind of anonymous threat? Oh please spare me, Master of GED.

Now as far as Palin goes, you either voted for her or Obama. Which is it?

You say: "i've noticed that every blog attacking critics of this health care plan uses no valid arguments from the other side."

Here's the irrefutable argument for Health Care Reform. It is an indispensible component of the capitalistic system. Now take that advanced GED that you have, and ponder that for a while. I'm sure that I will have to give you a basic lesson in Eco 101 after you struggle with this concept.

 
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stopit5
almost 12 years ago

you care too much i can't keep up. I have a life i'm sorry. btw, your final argument is that health care is important. that in no way is any validation of why this bill is good. i'm embarrassed that i've spoken this much with you already. you are that internet loser that people make jokes about. people like me don't talk to delusional dim-witted "folk" like you. start an internet fight with someone else, childish zealot. i'm not going to be responding/checking so you can foment all you want, good luck.

 
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texasroadgambler
almost 12 years ago

stopit5: Now recognizing that you are woefully overmatched is the first smart move I've seen you make here. But you departed us with a lame-ass excuse to justify your inabilities. LOL

 
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Uncle_Harvey
almost 12 years ago

It is amazing that any poker player would vote for this Joke of a President. I guess you just got caught up in the hype like the snake oil salesman of old. Maybe you will elect the Sham wow guy next.

 
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y00h00180
almost 12 years ago

Getting back to tex about the bill: My fear is the bill, as it stands, may entrench the companies even more. Their role needs to be significantly diminished, if not abolished gradually. The fact that it is 1/6 of the economy SHOWS why it is such a problem. It is an industry that is completely unnecessary. Think of what more productive things people and the resources could be put to. Mandating everyone to feed this monster is a backward step.

As for profit margins, "stopit5", watch them skyrocket now.

 
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IHateLeeWatkinson
almost 12 years ago

How come Lee hasn't posted about how he hates Christmas?

 
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y00h00180
almost 12 years ago

RE: How come Lee hasn't posted about how he hates Christmas?

Do it, Lee. I totally see the connection to corporate hegemony and Christmas. You have a good point. There wouldn't be a Santa, as we know him, without a certain cocaine based refreshment.

A bait-and-switch healthcare plan is a great Christmas gift, but maybe some "clean coal" in our stocking would make it perfect.

I could make a username called IHATECHRISTMAS, but not everyone is as articulate as this guy.

 
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