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What would Jesus do?

by Lee Watkinson |  Published: Sep 10, '09

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I watched president Obama’s speech last night and as always was very impressed by what he had to say.
What also struck me is how, probably, every one of the politicians so against healthcare/insurance reform claims to be a christian. This is the height of hypocracy. What would Jesus do? Would Jesus accept money from the powerfull insurance companies (basicly legal bribes) to help them take money from the poor and powerless, untill they become sick at which time they do whatever they can to try not to payoff on the policy. and refuse to insure people deemed too risky? Casino’s are pretty greedy, but at least they payoff when they lose a bet. Insurance company’s have spent so much money trying to scare senior citizens, bribe politicians, ect. These are the same people that claim to be pro-life, yet when it comes to making sure that families are able to recieve decent medical care they are more or less “not my problem”.
The bottom line I believe is that this issue is whether powerful corporations can payoff politicians in order to continue cheating and stealing from the people they represent. This reform is not much more, if at all, more expensive then the system in place now, where uninsured have to go to the emergency room for everthing and the cost is, ofcourse, passed on to everyone else.

I do agree with the GOP on the issue of tort reform to eliminate excessive malpractice claims that we also all pay for in the long run.

I also dont think insurance can be mandated without the public option to do so seems like it would just play into the insurance companies hands. I only got health insurance a couple years ago and for the 20+ years I was without it, never once would have put in a claim, thats the customers they want forced to buy insurance.

Just to throw something poker into the blog…. I saw on the news, last night, that four employees at a smaller Vegas card room were in very serious trouble for skimming the badbeat jackpots. I wonder if they came here from another state or what, but you don’t mess around with that stuff in Nevada. They will lock you up and throw away the key for cheating or stealing from a casino in Nevada. I think you can even get thrown in jail for keeping money or chips you find on the floor of a casino, money on the floor of the casino is there property according to Nevada law.

Lee Watkinson has accumulated nearly $4 million in tournament winnings over his career. His accomplishments include a World Series bracelet in the 2006 $10,000 pot-limit Omaha event and an eighth-place finish in the 2007 WSOP main event. Lee is a Full Tilt Pro and uses his poker winnings to help a chimpanzee rescue charity. Learn more about Lee at his website, www.leewatkinson.com.

 
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swandila98
over 8 years ago

what would jesus do? Jesus would not force people to buy insurance if they didn't want it.jesus would not fine an individual $3,800 a year to not sign up for insurance. jesus would not kill the private health insurance industry with gov't subsidies on the public option that the private companies can't compete with. what's gonna happen is employers are gonna get rid of their health plans because the public option is cheaper; it makes sense. the private insurers will go out of business and the Congressional budget office says approx.1.6 million people will lose their jobs. reform needs too happen but this plan will bankrupt our great country.obama hasn't done shit for poker either.his brand of change sucks and I also took a $200 pot of you on full tilt.hahahahahaa

 
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matlisa
over 8 years ago

The president is a socialist that is the problem. All our politicians are corrupt. This is the problem in our great country.

 
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staxcheez
over 8 years ago

swandila..seriously? 'Fine' an individual $3800? You clearly dont understand how taxation works in this country.'Kill' the private health ins. industry? Maybe you should take a gander at some of stories of how many lost lives the 'private' health industry's negligence and greed can be held accountable for before you verbally defecate words like 'kill' to describe it. And God forbid, greedy ass corporations such as Kaiser Prm. have competition with the gov't. 'Obama hasnt done shit for poker'? You are clearly a greedy retard who is fortunate to have health insurance and should spend that "monster $200 pot" on something productive if you havent already donated it back. And your comment on how this plan will 'bankrupt our great country'...Your right-wing yeast infected ass can take a large chunk of responsibilty for having elected the former pres. who drove this country further in DEBT. Something Im sure you are all too familiar with if you're bragging about scooping a $200 pot off a millionaire.

 
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Ragaboo
over 8 years ago

Swandila, you entirely miss Lee's point. He's actually quite right. I'm no Christian, but I understand the teachings associated with Jesus very well, and Jesus was assuredly a socialist in philosophy. Also, keep in mind that socialism isn't the same as communism, and also that most successful societies on the planet combine aspects of both capitalism and socialism to form the best-functioning civilization. Socialism isn't a bad thing, no matter how hard Fox News wants to make it sound like a bad word. PURE socialism definitely is, but so is pure capitalism. Stop seeing things in black and white and venture into the world of color.

 
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chipsdaily
over 8 years ago

the problem with the president is that he so brilliantly speaks double talk that the average american doesn't actually understand what he is trying to communicate. almost his entire speech wednesday night was one major contradiction. he started out his speech informing the public that the federal deficit is made up almost entirely by the overrun cost of medicare and medicaid. he goes on to say that without these costs there is no federal deficit. in fact he stressed that nothing and he means nothing is more of a cause than those two things. but then he loves to turn around and bash bush for the war in iraq as if that has everything to do with the deficit. well both of those things cant be true now can they. furthermore you can't insure 30 million new americans and not add $1 to the deficit. it is fiscally impossible; think about that logically.

now i agree that there are horrible things being done by insurance companies - like dropping peoples coverage when they are sick after they have been paying premiums for 30 years. so i am all for federal legislation that will ban that. tort reform is a must and they should allow competition across state lines to create lower prices. but there should not be a federal mandate that says a person must have health insurance. for crying out loud this is america - land of the free, home of the brave. i'm not saying the brave as if it's righteous to walk around without health insurance cause we all not its not. but it is a persons right to not carry if they so desire.

on a final note of contradictions - i can't stand when this president tries to get on a bi-partisan horse and say my office is an open door to anyone who wants bring forth a discussion on these issues. but then goes on to say, "But, i will not listen to anyone that does not support this bill..." i mean come on what a crock. the man is a beast of a bluffer as he goes on to tell the american people that the medical professionals across the country support this bill. that is an outright lie, as i have family members and friends that are in all different segments of the medical field almost none of them support this bill. notice he did not back that statement up with any facts he just expected the public to take his words at face value. he is a heck of a salesman but most you know better than to trust them. use deductive reasoning and know that when someone puts a deadline a week away on such a huge issue, they are probably trying to sneak something pass. it is the same tactic he used when passing his economic spending bill that has done nothing but grow our federal budget by more than $800 billion. this man in 9 months in office has spent more tax payer dollars than every president combined before him. do not for a moment bring up george bush, not even close.

p.s. lee,
if you are always impressed with what he has to say then you are one of the sheep that this man has built his presidency on. outside of his articulations go back and take his words in context and discover what a mastermind he is of disguise. almost hitler like, and i'm not saying that like he plans on wiping out a race but certainly a culture. heck just break down his campaign slogan, "change"! he wants to "fundamentally change the united states of america". i'm sorry i don't. i think we are the greatest nation on earth and i don't want a president who wants to come in and fundamentally change this country that our forefathers built.

 
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tanmann69
over 8 years ago

"Chipsdaily"

Damn good post, bravo.

 
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Kodkid
over 8 years ago

Ragaboo. You said that you aren't a CHRISTian, but yet say, "but I understand the teachings associated with Jesus very well." His teachings are based upon having a relationship with Him, therefore, you can not possibly understand His teachings. Sorry.

Mr. Watkins, I am a preacher and have been for 18 years now. Obviously you don't know much about scripture. I will not pretend to know a lot about politics. But I will say this... If a man doesn't work, he doesn't eat (plain and simple). My Brother-in-law can not and will not hold a job yet has 4 kids by 3 different women. I feel sorry for my nephews and neices, not him or the women he slept with, they had a choices and made the wrong ones and now I have the opportunity to pay for his health care? I don't think so. I have a full-time job and a part-time job to help my family, he doesn't deserve the same benefits as me.

Chips daily.... GREAT POST!!!!!

 
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PigP0ker
over 8 years ago

Amen, Chipsdaily. Took all of my thoughts and summed them up in a way i wouldn't be able to.

 
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pikachucards
over 8 years ago

Not only is there a religious hypocrisy here (Lee is right, I went to a Baptist school for 12 years, I KNOW what Jesus taught), there's also a hypocrisy in economics. The right always touts "free market" and "capitalism". Increasing competition to reduce costs is a central principle of free market economics. Yet somehow the right doesn't want that now. Go figure.

 
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texasroadgambler
over 8 years ago

Lee makes the point through using the philosophy of Jesus that is known as the "Ethics of Reciprocity". This ethic has existed hundreds of years before Jesus and is found in all religious texts and Greek philosophy.

It is simply the Golden Rule stated in various forms.

Too many people in this country are in thrall to religious and political dogma. We are becoming ungovernable. Empires fall away. History makes the case.

 
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riverbrad
over 8 years ago

Chipsdaily I couldn't agree more.
Lee I think you should take a step back and start thinking for yourself instead of taking Obama at face value just because of the way he speaks. Think of him as another poker player at the table and you may find that he likes to bluff a lot. Or you can give your money away by folding when you should have called his bluff. I would think as a great poker player this would be easy for you to see.

 
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texasroadgambler
over 8 years ago

Chipsdaily is wrong. Obama inherited an economic disaster that had the world on the edge of a precipice. He took action that prevented a worldwide financial Chernobyl.

He is working diligently to bring change to corrupt, greedy institutions that have gained control of a fundamental right of all citizens to a basic level of health care.

What chips is really objecting to is that there is no match on the other side of the aisle for the articulate and intelligent Obama.

And therein lies the rub. Democracy only functions efficiently when there is a loyal opposition to the party in power that is able to articulate ideas. Unfortunately for us all, this is not the case today. Obama is faced with an opposition that just says "no" to all of his policies.

Now for a poker analogy: Those of you who see the world in black and white wouldn't make a pimple on an apex predator's ass.

 
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Ragaboo
over 8 years ago

LOL, Kodkid. His teachings are actually derived from what we know about him from the New Testament, not whatever you feel like he meant based on a so-called relationship with him. Being a Christian is about having your so-called relationship AND following the teachings of Christ. But his teachings alone are laid out quite explicitly in the Bible -- no relationship required.

To be quite frank with you, it's a bit worrisome to me if you don't understand your own religious figure's moral teachings regarding equality and finance given how long you claim to have been employed within the faith.

"Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God."

We are also to "forgive our debtors" and "give to every one who begs from you."

And Christianity as a whole is incredibly socialist in nature, focusing on not accumulating wealth and distributing resources to all as per their needs:

"And all who believed were together and had all things in common. And they were selling their possessions and belongings and distributing the proceeds to all, as any had need." (Acts 2:44-45)

 
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chipsdaily
over 8 years ago

texas i am willing to concede that there is not a match on the other side of the aisle for the articulate and intelligent obama. in fact i by no means would ever discount this man's intelligence. from a charasmatic standpoint, he makes for a brilliant president. however i do discount his motives and initiatives, since they tend to derail the constitution of the constitution. the ultimate demise of a democaracy is when the people realize that they can vote in a manner for which will pay their bills through the treasury. these days are the very reasons why some of our forefathers objected to even being a democracy. but it seems as though that day has come and people such as yourself seem to welcome it. as if the innovation and prosperity that we take for granted today isn't upon us because of our free market system. ever since we brought on social programs like social security, medicare and medicaid; i would argue that the integrity of this country as a whole has gone down. there are too many entiltement issues and not enough ambition. heck here we stand on the annivesary of 9/11 and there are still people on this site posting against bush for the iraq war. but with that said let me get back to topic - you can't truly consider the government as fair competition to big business. alls we have to do is allow companies to do business across state lines and you will get the fair competition that you desire.

as far as the policies that he has implemented thus far to combat this awful economy he inherited please tell what they have done. i mean his spending bill is a joke. most of the money won't even reach the public for two years. not to mention it is meaningless investments that will create temporary jobs with new roads and a bridge to nowhere. you can not honestly sit there and tell us that he has brilliantly turned this economy around while unemployment continues to grow to all time highs. yes the trend is going down but we're still losing hundreds of thousands of jobs each month. you act as if the jobs are growing by that number.

the man is a spender of your money and full of empty promises that sound good so that he can continue to gain power on the political stage. and as long as there are sheep that are willing to follow him off the cliff he will continue to do just that. admittingly i wish there was someone on the other side of the aisle that could combat this man. because we are going in the wrong way and we are going there fast.

 
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Ragaboo
over 8 years ago

"you can't truly consider the government as fair competition to big business"

This argument has a lot of holes. 1) The classic example of FexEx/UPS/DHL (who thrive in the marketplace) versus the USPS. 2) Libraries loan books for FREE, but people still go to Borders/Barnes and Noble to buy books, and they still shop at Amazon in droves. The government wants to offer another option, and it wants to ensure that people who don't have normal means can still live healthy lives. We allow people without normal means to read books for free, and very few people rally against libraries. How can that be a more basic right than the right to health and not having to go bankrupt to stay alive (or worse, dying because you can't pay at all). If you want the best health care with the best doctors and the shortest wait times, pay extra for health insurance. If you simply want to make sure that you can be covered in your times of unexpected need without going bankrupt, use the government option. How is that a horrible plan?

But, chipsdaily, it is obvious that you are the kind of person who is putting more thought into this than most people, and I truly respect and appreciate that. I personally think your reasoning is flawed, but at least you are reasoning.

For what it's worth, I voted for Obama, and I'm not a fan of how he handled the financial crisis. The debt he's getting us into doesn't sit well with me, either, but if it ends up working, I guess I have to give it to him. I'm also not sold on every single aspect of his health care overhaul. But if we waited until everyone was 100% on board with something like this, we'd never see any change.

His proposal definitely has flaws, but it has more benefits. The good certainly outweighs the bad.

 
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texasroadgambler
over 8 years ago

Chips you are struggling with your concept of the Constitution. None of Obama's policies are violations of Constitutional law.

The free market system has proved to be vulnerable to greed and corruption anywhere that it is unchecked by the power of goverment.

We need go no further than the repeal of the Glass-Stegal Act enacted by a Republican congress and signed into law by a Democrat president Clinton. That one event sowed the seeds of the financial disaster that soon ocurred thereafter.

The health care fiasco in this country is a national disgrace. We are the only major industrial country without universal health care for all citizens. There can be no argument against universal health care in a nation that claims to be Christian.

We must all share the responsibilities in this country. Yes, some will shirk that duty, but railing against those who do will not provide solutions to the problems.

I am in the top tax bracket in this country, yet I am willing to pay more to solve our problems.

I am also a fiscal conservative, yet I know that situtations arise that cannot be solved by fiscal restraint. How do you think that we saved ourselves from the Great Depression?

Finally, the goverment exists to dull the razor's edge of unfettered capitalism that falls disproportionately on those unable to defend themselves. Jesus would have approved.

 
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texasroadgambler
over 8 years ago

bmpek: Of the social ills that you point out, we have as a society attempted to prohibit and regulate drinking and drug use. Neither has ever been successful.

Smoking is one of the largest contributors to the death rate in this country. I don't know if a national law to prohibit smoking would work. But it is worth a try. Bans in many areas across the country are gaining traction.

Obesity is growing in this country because of poor food choices made easier by companies that produce cheap "food" that contains many "empty" calories that satisfy the body's demand for energy.

Yes, we are all responsible for our actions. But I know that those of us that are capable must bear some of the burden of those who will not or cannot be responsible for their actions. A civilized society that does not recognize the duty of shared sacrifice soon falls into chaos.

Perhaps the late President Kennedy's words might remind us all of that duty: "Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country." And yes, Jesus would have approved of this message of shared sacrifice.

 
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texasroadgambler
over 8 years ago

bmpek: One more thing. I agree with your opinion about death with dignity. Because of that, I guess that you and I better be careful. Let's not disclose our identities lest the howling mobs from the "town hall meetings" descend upon us for supporting end of life counseling. You know, the dreaded "Death Panels".

Who was it that coined that expression? Oh yes, I think it was coined by a woman that believes that the Earth is only six thousand years old, and that the "Flintstones" is based on a true story.

 
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texasroadgambler
over 8 years ago

bmpek: Where is the data that supports that "...over half of this country is on a government help program..."?

Since the population of the U.S. exceeds 300 million, by your calculation at least 150 million people in the U.S. would be "...on a government help program..."

Please provide us with some verification of this number.

 
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staxcheez
over 8 years ago

'chipsdaily', While some of your arguments and statements hold validity, others do not. And since you are claiming that you are not the 'average nieve american' that doesnt understand what the pres. is communicating, please enlighten me why you think you are so much smarter and enlightened than others?
You state that you have several family members and friends that are employed in different segments of the medical field and none are supportive of this field. Duh! So lets just let private medical practices get richer by financially raping us. Ultimately, there can be a valid argument from both perspectives on all of your statements. If you are as strong of an advocate of not changing this country as you display in your first post...Then maybe you should realize that 'your country' elected this individual and his congress. And this is what the vast majority of people support. Whether or not you think they are as intelligent or intellectual as you.

 
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chipsdaily
over 8 years ago

oh so much to address and so little time so lets get to it. first off tex i wasn't saying that the president was in violation of the constitution which is why i didn't choose that word. what i said was he was derailing the constitution of the constitution. in other words he is going against the fundamental political principles, and structure of our constitution. i never said anything about breaking a law, that is done by his cabinet members, i.e. tim geithner. and as far as to your explaination as to why government exist shows where our view points differ. i believe government exist to protect the producers not those that won't do for themselves.

as far as me thinking that i am more intellectual than other americans. well i would say some, but without a doubt there are plenty that can say the same for me. what i am concerned with is the fact that a lot of people are very impressed with the color of his skin, or the way that he talks (which is extraordinary) and they lose sight of what he is actually saying. sometimes you have to stop and replay it in your mind in order to find the contradiction. but for those that do and that apply a conscious mind to reality you see the falsehood in this man speech. nevertheless i never intended to imply that i am more intelligent than the average american so i felt it was important to clear that up since staxcheese seemed to only take that from what i said.

anyway i understand that there has been a drastic move to the left recently in america. but i do believe that a large part of that is do to the massive change in demographics. ultimately i think we will be better of with less social programs catering toward those that are looking for what the country can do for them. instead of what can they do for the country. tex get that right!

 
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texasroadgambler
over 8 years ago

No, bmpek, that won't do for an answer to my request for specific data that proves your contention that more than 150 million in the U.S. are on a "government help program" as you describe it.

What you have done is regurgitate the dogma of the far right in an attempt to support a position that is insupportable.

Once again, please provide us with the data bases that validate your contention.

O.K. We all know that my request is rhetorical, because no such data exists to support your contention. There are not more than 150 million people in the U.S. on your self described "government health program".

 
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texasroadgambler
over 8 years ago

chips: Perhaps as a Constitutional scholar you can provide us with the particular articles of the Constitution that you think are being compromised by the Obama administration.

Perhaps then you can also provide us with your analysis of violations of the spirit of the Constitution that were committed by the previous administration so that we can make a comparison.

So, you think that I am mistaken that Kennedy was speaking of the duty of shared sacrifice? Or maybe that Jesus would have approved of that duty?

Give up the Kool-aid. It's bad for your health.

 
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chipsdaily
over 8 years ago

two of the main purposes of the constitution was to secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity. meaning that our elected government should govern in a way that protects our future decendants. furthermore, they are to promote general welfare (health, happiness or prosperity). welfare from the left's context means organized efforts on the part of public or private organizations to benefit the poor, or simply public assistance. this is not the meaning of the word used in the constitution. in order to insure welfare for our posterity i believe we should not burden them with trillions of dollars of debt. im sure you understand the importance of our currency and how fragile its strength is in relationship to how other nations (i.e., china) view our credit worthiness.

perhaps maybe you can explain, since obama couldn't, how were going to magically reduce inefficiencies on medicare and medicaid by expanding the social programs. typically growth doesn't create efficiency. in fact it typically has an adverse effect. so rather than take him for his word that this will happen after we enact this bill. i would like to see it happen first and then maybe i will believe he has a leg to stand on when he so irresponsibly stands in front of the american people and tells them that we can insure 30 million new americans without adding a single dollar to the deficit. the audacity of hope, bullsh** the audacity of this man. how dare he abuse the powers of the executive office by misleading the american public to push his social agenda. and as far as the kool-aid, nice try to turn that one around. we all know which side is drinking the kool-aid - get real!!!

 
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texasroadgambler
over 8 years ago

Awww, chips: I'll have to sentence you to sit on the stool at the back of the class wearing the "Dunce" hat.

The Constitution begins with "We the people...". It is clear to me from your pitifully juvenile attempt to justify a retrograde political philosophy that you think our founding fathers should have begun with ME the people.

Of course that really is the problem in this country now. So many of our elected demagogues believe the same thing. You know the ones I'm talking about. The far right ideologues who have seized control of the Republican Party.

Where would we be without the safety net for the old, the sick, and the poor? Your writings suggest to me that you might like to re-establish the poor houses from the early part of our history that was a legacy of our English roots. Ah, yes, the party of ME the people. What a hateful and mean philosophy tht is.

Oh, or perhaps you might just like for us to put the old, the sick, and the poor outside the tent in winter? Many Indian tribes did that in the past centuries.

Or perhaps you and others who subscribe to your retrograde philosophy would like for us to descend into chaos? Better read up a bit on another Western democracy to learn what happens when you want to keep everything for yourself. The rulers ignored their entreaties and said, "Let them eat cake." when confronted by the people who had little or nothing. Soon after, the next Western democracy was born, although not before the arrogant, greedy hoarders were introduced to "Madame Guillotine".

I suspect that this is too much for you to attempt to understand all at once, so I'll answer your currency questions in another blog.

 
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texasroadgambler
over 8 years ago

chips: Let's incite you a bit before I give you a very brief lesson about deficits and currencies. It might awaken you from your reverie.

I think that you and other retrograde members of the Republican Party, currently seized by the lunatic fringe of the far right, would just like to address the President as "Boy". I believe that is the source of your discontent.

I'm quite certain that you voted for a woman who has exorcisms perfomed upon herself, believes that the Earth is six thousand years old, and that the "Flintstones" is based on a true story.

 
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texasroadgambler
over 8 years ago

bmpek: Ah, now I see at least part of your problem. You can't adequately read Please point out where I have challenged you on "...anything about health care subsidies" as that applies to my challenges to you to substantiate your claims that more than 150 million Americans are on "government help programs".

As far as you debating me, you are unarmed in that battle.

 
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texasroadgambler
over 8 years ago

Now bmpek: Please provide us with the data sets that substaniate your claim that "...we kill millions of the unborn for the convenience of the would be parents."

Oh well, once again we all know that you can't do that either, because it isn't true either.

It does seem that you are a master at exposing yourself as someone who makes wild unsubstantiated claims.

bmpek, maybe you should just learn the First Rule of Holes: When you find yourself in one, stop digging.

 
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texasroadgambler
over 8 years ago

Wait a minute, bmpek. You skipped over my previous postings requesting that you substantiate your claims that over 150 million Americans are on "government help programs."

Guess you couldn't find anything on Google, right?

The number you provide us with from Planned Parenthood are a far cry from the "millions of the unborn" you claim.

Not being a female, I have no right to opine on their decisions relative to this. I do support sex education. I know that the abstinence policy that some support is a failure when challenged by the hormonal realities of adolescence.

Perhaps you need tutoring on the Rule of Holes?

 
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texasroadgambler
over 8 years ago

bmpek: Just another reminder of your allegiance to the party of NO. You are attempting to shift the focus of the subjects here to the subject of abortion.

A typical right wing fringe group tactic.

BTW, just a hint. Even though it is irrelevant to the issues here, you can beat that number you posted if you could really use Google, which is connected to the world's largest library.

 
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PigP0ker
over 8 years ago

i nominate Texas for president.

 
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texasroadgambler
over 8 years ago

bmpek: Is it a coincidence that as far as I can determine by a cursory review of the various blogs, you only show up on the top players' blogs such as Doyle, Daniel, Phil, and Lee?

And with never a kind word to write? It's beginning to look a lot like envy to me.

If their success makes you envious, then perhaps that you should look for something else to do rather than continually torturing yourself.

 
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PigP0ker
over 8 years ago

you do the same, texas. you are a fool...

 
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texasroadgambler
over 8 years ago

Well, at least I'm not a "Pig". So many easy targets here. Did you adopt your nom du plume because you are a member of the Cracker Nation?

 
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PigP0ker
over 8 years ago

close, very close.. You and your witty statements, very intelligent ; ). Actually, it's because when i was younger my great grandpa gave me a ceramic glass pig, which i now use as my 'good luck' charm in poker.

 
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texasroadgambler
over 8 years ago

How's that working out for you?

 
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PigP0ker
over 8 years ago

good, thanks for asking.

 
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Uncle_Harvey
over 8 years ago

How about this to settle this whole debate. You take resonsibilty for your bills and I take resposibility for mine. I do not force any thing on you and you do not force anything on me. The Constitution clearly outlines the powers of the federal government. The items not specified are left for the states to decide. Over time we have shifted more and more power to the central government. Now we are all paying the price.

 
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texasroadgambler
over 8 years ago

Uncle_Harvey: That might work out just fine if you and I were the only ones on the planet. But we are not.

The powers granted the federal government to set fiscal and monetary policies by the Constitution are those powers that the right wing lunatic fringe are objecting to.

For all the members of Cracker Nation who do not know what fiscal policy is, it is the power of the federal government to tax and spend.

Like it or not, it is a power granted to the federal government by the Constitution.

 
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chipsdaily
8 years ago

tex just a few comments cause i dont seem to have the time for this debate that you do. however it strikes me curiously to wonder how a man with such profound intelligence wants to bicker like a school child. because there is no other interpretation of your reaction to my last post. there is nothing in there that describes "me" the people. nevertheless, i find it pointless to continue on a discussion with someone so juvenile. not one time from the very beginning have you been able to dispell my concerns over the substance of obama's presentation of his bill. all's you seem to want to do is spill your ideologies that i clearly do not agree with. difference in opinion is one thing but do not make a post trying to recreate what i wrote with a total misinterpretation. it is irresponsible and frankly it is a turnoff. in other words it makes me feel like i am wasting my time discussing something with a fool. in the future get a hold of yourself. it will be much more becoming from an intellectual standpoint.

 
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texasroadgambler
8 years ago

chips: Is this the point at which I'm supposed to beg for your forgiveness for defending our President from some obvious right wing ideologue such as you?

O.K. Here goes: Oh please, please let me have a drink of your Kool-aid, or at least give me a good whiff of the Cracker Nation ether that your writings suggest that you are under.

How's that? Was that servile enough for you?

The reason that you don't want to continue a discussion with me is because you realize that you are way overmatched.

Oh, and BTW, I couldn't be the "juvenile" or the "school child". Rember you are the one sitting on the stool in the back of the Constitutional classroom wearing the "Dunce" hat.

 
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chipsdaily
8 years ago

this will be the last time i respond to you tex- the fact is you are incaple of discussing the topic at hand. you obviously have your own agenda you want to speak on- i suggest you start a diary and have a good one-way dialog with yourself. if you want to have a two way discussion (ie. reading/comprehending/commenting on issues and topics that are presented) then i would be happy to have a more intellectual debate that didn't include name calling (dunce) and racial slurs(cracker nation). you are right, i'm out matched here. i don't believe there is an effective way to communicate with individuals that resort to lowbrow comments. have fun with your diary, i'm sure you'll find yourself very interesting and intelligent. the rest of us, and i think i speak for almost everyone who has bashed you thus far, will appreicate the space you vacate.

the president doesn't need to be protected from a right wing ideologue. if he is truly the bi-partisan that he describes himself as, than he should be open to those ideologues. and what is with the racial ignorance that you are displaying with your "cracker nation" talk? truly, i would like to think that your better than that.

nevertheless, i think it would be nice for you to step up and discuss the topic at hand. without dispensing all of "your" left-wing ideologies. remember, my concerns were that the president contradicted himself throughout the speech. if you go back and read my first post you will see some of the points i was concerned with. what is interesting about you is you skip past the points people make and just start going off on your own tangents. when you asked me to explain what principles of the constitution the president was abandoning; i did with factual substance. ultimately, i am an advocate of health care reform just not socialized medicine. nor am i tossing out your ideals without reason. the fact that you don't seem to get this and you just want to attack people with an opposing view is why i don't want to continue in a discussion with you.

 
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texasroadgambler
8 years ago

chips: Now, I didn't mean to make you cry. And you are the one who writes criticisms of our current administration that are false. After all, you are the one who wrote that Tim Geitner was violating the Constitution. And you claim that you are writing with "factual substance"?

When asked by me to compare this administration with the former administration, you conveniently ignored that. Now that is an administration that did violate Consitutional law in many areas.

You had better "bone up" a bit before posting long blogs that you wished passed for erudition on any subject matter.

Here's a place you can start: Learn a bit about the economic system known as socialism. Don't pick too comprehensive a text, however, and keep a tutor close at hand.

Next you might want to look up the definition of "racist". Oh wait a minute, I think that the Cracker Nation already knows the meaning of that. Do you think that Joe Wilson just really wanted to say "You lie, Boy"? I do.

Maybe now you can just look up the definition of "cracker" so that you don't continue to embarras yourself by falsely claiming that I, a white man, am attacking someone with a racist comment. Here's a hint: "Regional".

 
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texasroadgambler
8 years ago

chips: I'm sorry. I've set to big a task for you. Here's a little help with your homework.

The following is the connotation of "cracker" that I have been using:

"Historically the word suggested poor, white rural Americans with little formal education."

Now even you, the far right wing zealot that you are, can identify which political party panders to the Cracker Nation.

Now aren't you ashamed of yourself for calling me a racist?

 
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PigP0ker
8 years ago

Texas, i must say, he handed it to you pretty damn good. you done get it, ; ). Yet you still continue to embarrass yourself and prove to us just how much of a child you really are. Seriously, grow up, and show some maturity.

 
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texasroadgambler
8 years ago

Pigpoker: After your last email, I am wondering if I miised something significant about you blog name.

Perhaps the conclusion that I jumped to about the last word of your alias being assoiciated with the game of poker was an error.

Now I'm wondering if it might not just be a description about what you do down in Cracker Nation?

Recognize yourself in this?:

"Historically the word suggested poor, white rural Americans with little formal education."

Come on now, just admit that you are penny limit player trying to play in a game that is much too high for your skills.

 
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PigP0ker
8 years ago

Yes, i am the one with little education... Did you read your last post?? lol. Nice try, imbecile. Gave me headache... And i just play poker for fun, although i am a consistent winner. And no not penny blinds, just 1/2.

 
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PigP0ker
8 years ago

Oh, and e-mail? I never e-mailed you, Texas.

 
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texasroadgambler
8 years ago

Pigpoker: You didn't need to admit it. I know that you are a lifetime member of Cracker Nation.

I read a post that I'll pass along to you as a favor. These two crackers were talking about the best way to hold the pig still. One of them wrote to the other that the best way that he had found was to put both the pig's hind legs down the front of his boots.

I always wondered what that meant. Do you know anything about that?

 
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PigP0ker
8 years ago

What are you talking about..? Please, continue to make a fool and embarrass yourself. Grow up.

 
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texasroadgambler
8 years ago

Now my last blog was pretty straight forward. And you respond with "What are you talking about?" Uh oh, looks like I struck a nerve and could be right about what you do down in the Cracker Nation with an alias of "pigpoker".

Do you squeal like a pig caught under a gate, or just holler "Sooooey" at the moment of your ecstacy?

 
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PigP0ker
8 years ago

When i say, What are you talking about, it doesn't mean i don't Actually understand what you are attempting to say. It merely means that you are talking jibberish, and are not addressing my previous post (now 2) about how you told me i have little education, when in the same post it seems it was written by a pre-schooler.

 
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BarrysBoi
8 years ago

What would Jesus do? Im not sure on this topic, but I know he wouldn't push all in with Ace-rag at the WSOP ME final table... Jus sayin'

Quit poker lee and instead take your fake Criss Angel look to the white house. Maybe they can make you the Czar of chip spewing.

 
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texasroadgambler
8 years ago

Mr.Piggy: Come on now. We both know that you ordered those custom built pig boots with extra high tops.

 
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MrGranger
8 years ago

I was reading the whole discussion after this "brilliant" post by Mr Watkinson, who should clearly stick to poker and avoid politics, and I could not do anything else than to react to what I've read.

First of all, I'm FRENCH, so I perfectly recognize SOCIALISM when SOCIALISM is about to hit, as even our "right-wing" leaders are jut socialists in disguise.
By the way texasroadgambler, we say "nom DE plume" in French and not "Nom DU plume", which sounds ridiculous.

From the outside, what I see is simply this: Mr Obama is annihilatng the very essence of the US. And he's very good at it, because he's free to do it, as his supporters have only one simple thing to say when he's being criticized: "Those who don't approve Mr Obama's politics are just racists and rear-guard far-right wingists!". And there you go. The nice, young, progressist and brilliant Mr Obama against the old-fashioned, conservative and stupid rest-of-the-country. He's killing your country which is about to become the next Europe and 50% of you don't even see it. When one has no experience with socialism, they always think that's paradise: "we're gonna all live as a happy nation and no one will be left aside!": LOL. It's the exact opposite which happens in more than 95% of the cases, except in some countries which are very nationalists in terms of immigration (national preference and stuff) and which have lots of natural ressources (Norway for example).
Racism is the best word to prevent anyone from criticizing him. Kiss freedom of speech goodbye dear friends!

External affairs:
- he says the war in Iraq was a mistake: HTF can he say something like that when so few years have passed after it started. Big historical events are judged decades after they happened, not 5/10 years after. Sounds very short-sighted. He could say that MAYBE, this was a mistake, but that it's too early to say.
- he wants to discuss with Ahmenijad... Yeah,just try to discuss with him and wait to get hit by a nice nuclear bomb. You will love it, for sure.
- he wants the European Union to fully accept Turkey as a European union member. This simply shows his lack of culture and his lack of common sense. Turkey is not in Europe (except for the western part of Istanbul) and this country is made of 120M muslims. Islam has nothing to do with the Western world. When he understands that, many things will change. 120M Muslims mean that Turkey would become the most important country in Europe, with the most votes at the European parliament, which in turn means that Europe will become Islamic, as NO ONE in Europe can criticize Islam without being seen as a racist pig... exactly what's happening in the US with Obama.

Internal affairs:
- if the social(ist) healthcare reform is implemented, I have just a few words to write: "Welcome to France, ladies and gentlemen!"
Which means, in case some of you don't know yet:
- you can live better on welfare than by actually working
- you have absolutely NO incentive to work your ass out to make good money as most of the money you're gonna make (more than 50% here in France) will be distributed to the "needing". Hey Mr Watkinson, what do you think about giving back to the government more than 50% of your poker winnings, that'd be nice, huh? You would probably love it, as you voted for Mr Obama who wanted a big change for the US. Here you have it, the needed change! You'll be so much happier when you'll have one third of the country living off welfare, one third of the country who will be public servants (as they will be needed to efficiently (lol) implement this big change you want so much) and the remaining one third who is going to pay for the first two thirds!

- he wants to be more "gentle" with terrorists... Yeah, it's common knowledge that talking nicely to terrorists is gonna help the US to get information about planned attacks and stuff. VERY COMMON KNOWLEDGE. How could Bush forget about that? He should have known better. The best way to get pieces of information is to say: "Hi Mr Terrorist! How are you doing? Hope the food is good and the mattress is supple enough? Yeah? Good! So, what can you tell me about the next Al Qaida attacks? Just to be clear before you answer, if you are a bad boy, you will be put in an isolation quarter, okay?"... Ridiculous... Let him sue the CIA agents who were just doing their jobs and obeying orders as they SHOULD and here is what's gonna happen to the Feds in your country: no one will ever do their job properly ever after because everyone will be afraid of getting sued at the next election. Doing nothing is very European and not very American, don't you think...? Yeah, Obama was so much better than McCain...

 
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texasroadgambler
8 years ago

Mr.Granger: Oh my, I didn't mean to offend your sensitive French sensibilities. So sorry that my English spell check didn't catch that grievous error.

Oh my goodness, I do apologize.

BTW from your last paragraph it suggests to me that you voted for a ticket that had a woman who has had an exorcism performed upon her by a witch doctor, believes that the Earth is six thousand years old, and the "Flintstones" is based on a true story.

Oh, are you a U.S. citizen who speaks French or a citizen of France or a French Canadian?

 
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MrGranger
8 years ago

I'm just "French", which is enough of a burden!
And when you vote for someone, you don't vote for "number 2". I don't like Palin but McCain was good. He made a big mistake choosing her and I'm sure he cold have been a better match to Obama without her. But what could he do anyway with 98% of Black people voting for him... If White people had been as racist as them, McCain would have won, end of story.

And your "mistake" was not big a deal. It's just that I think it's better for you to use the right expression.

 
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MrGranger
8 years ago

Instead of "If White people had been as racist as them", I should have written: "Had Black people been less racist than white people". Less racism is better than more racism...

 
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texasroadgambler
8 years ago

MrGranger: You and I are in complete agreement that "Less racism is better than more racism."

 
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MrGranger
8 years ago

texasroadgambler: at least we agree on one thing!

 
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texasroadgambler
8 years ago

In that case, richenough, you should feel right at home.

 
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texasroadgambler
8 years ago

Well richenough, you're in the right position to know since I dump on you everytime you show up.

 
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texasroadgambler
8 years ago

O.K. now richenough, go on back to your $2 limit game. All you childish little twerps fall back on sexual comments when you find yourselves overmatched in a battle of wits.

BTW. You are unarmed in a battle of wits.

 
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Freedome
8 years ago

Since when I pray, it is at the poker table, I only believe in the Poker Gods..

But, we have unseen taxes that pay for all those who do not have insurance now, so we might as well have Uncle Sam pay it and see the cost as it is.

I do not nor will not have anything to do with the option, I will continue to pay the outragous amounts the insurance companies gouge me and as long as I can pay them, I will.

 
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