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Obama's mistake

by Lee Watkinson |  Published: Jan 28, '11

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I am looking forward to big weekend of online poker. Full tilt has been running double guarantees in all tournaments this week. This coupled with the feature that allows you to enter the same tournament up to four times has made for ridiculously huge prize pools all week.

The abundance of great tournaments which you can enter four times each has enticed me into playing up to 16 tables at a time. I had no idea how much more demanding it is than playing my normal one or two. You can’t even watch a TV show. I will need a little rest in the short time before FTOPS XIX starts Feb. 6th, which will also have a number of events with the new multi-entry feature.

I will be missing a couple days of the FTOPS for sure as we will be attending some events around the Grammys which start on the 10th with a Black Eyed Peas party.

I watched President Obama’s speech a couple nights ago and thought he should go into coaching in the NBA or motivational speaking in 6 yrs when he is done as president. I was inspired as always. It is weird to think of him being done in his early 50’s.

I am still very much a supporter of President Obama. I think he has been doing an incredible job trying to do as much as he can given our system of government. He has gotten an incredible amount done and staved off an impending depression that loomed as he took office. For people to expect him to have “fixed” everything by now is just silly, it takes time, especially with Republicans trying to block everything he does, no matter what it is.

The only thing Obama has done that I strongly disagree with is praise the Eagles for having Vick lead their team. I too believe in rehabilitation, but this wasn’t drugs or guns, it was personally electrocuting, drowning, strangling and otherwise torturing dogs. He picked dogs because he thought he would get away with it. In my oppinion anyone that would do this to dogs would have done it to people if it wasn’t for the consequences, it’s psychopathic behavior. You can’t rehab a psycho, as far as I know. You can send a message though…“If you are caught torturing and killing dog’s(or people), you’re done.” I wouldn’t allow him to represent any organization I was involved in after that.

Lee Watkinson has accumulated nearly $4 million in tournament winnings over his career. His accomplishments include a World Series bracelet in the 2006 $10,000 pot-limit Omaha event and an eighth-place finish in the 2007 WSOP main event. Lee is a Full Tilt Pro and uses his poker winnings to help a chimpanzee rescue charity. Learn more about Lee at his website, www.leewatkinson.com.

 
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WPS22
almost 10 years ago

Saying Michael Vick would kill a man if he could get away with it is horrific. Just because his compassion for animals may fall way short of yours does not mean he does not value human life. Some people may think I'm a animal hating monster because I eat meat and use leather products. I understand that. However, if those people said I would kill a man because I eat animals it would be crossing the line in my book.

Everyone has a different level respect for the lives of animals. Some people wouldn't swat a fly, others have bear heads hanging on their walls. These differences are often culturally based and shaped by the environment in which we live. In America we have tons of dog lovers but there are certain parts of the US where dog fighting is not all that rare. The fact is that Michael Vick is from one of those places and he fell into the subculture of dog fighting.

Unless you are from where he is from and grew up in an environment where dog fighting was normal, you can't really judge him. Many people in the US had never even heard of dog fighting, how can you compare them with someone who grows up in a place where it is accepted? Maybe if you grew up in a place like that you'd speak out against it and go against the crowd, maybe not.

 
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LeeW
almost 10 years ago

I didn't say cause he killed or fought dogs. He took pleasure in personally torturing the dogs, that is the most disturbing part.

 
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y00h00180
almost 10 years ago

It IS typical in many serial killers, that they started with torturing animals.

 
 

WPS22
almost 10 years ago

BTW saying "it wasn't drugs or guns" as if guns and drugs are somehow a lesser evil is disturbing. People very close to me have lost their lives to both of those things. Both kill people by the dozens everyday. Human lives. I can't really think of 2 bigger problems we have in America than guns and drugs. You can say what you want about Michael Vick, he has never hurt another human being.

 
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gangles
almost 10 years ago

I agree with your comments about Michael Vick. You can tell a lot about a person by how they treat animals. He abused, maimed and tortured sentient creatures for his own amusement. You can't get much lower than that. People like him are beyond rehabilitation. I'm upset he's back in the NFL, and embarrassed and disappointed Obama praised the decision.

 
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LeeW
almost 10 years ago

If you think taking drugs or carrying a gun is as depraved as strangling dogs with your own hands for pleasure we have a completely different idea of what is a product of where you were brought up and what is psycopathic behavior.

 
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WPS22
almost 10 years ago

People don't just "carry" guns around. They use the guns to shoot other human beings. On an average day, dozens of Americans are killed by guns. Drugs also destroy lives, kill people, cause most of this counrty's crime and leave children with no parents. I guess thats all ok if you don't kill a dog.

If you are lucky enough to not have lost any loved ones to guns or drugs then it must be nice. To anyone who has, you saying guns and drugs are nothing compared to hurting a dog is sick.

I may be totally insane but I'd sign up for a country with no drugs, no guns and more dog fighting. It would mean more human lives would be saved.

 
 

y00h00180
almost 10 years ago

You totally KNOW he has a fighting ring in the Whitehouse bunker.

 
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surfbum4life
almost 10 years ago

I am neither agreeing or disagreeing with which is worse, the nature of dog fighting, or anything of the sort. I just am wondering as to the evidence presented by Lee in the above post; I personally have never seen or heard anything about Vick "strangling a dog with his bare hands"? I was just wondering if this is fact that is on record, newspaper, television, etc? If it is I would greatly appreciate a link to such information; if not I do not believe you can associate his behavior of participating in dog fights to that of a psychopath.... for what its worth.

 
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LeeW
almost 10 years ago

He admitted to personally strangling and drowning six dogs....so you know the truth must be quite horrific.

 
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LiveActionPro
almost 10 years ago

Lee, you need to just step away from poker. Step down from Carplayer, step down from FTP poker. He killed a couple dogs Boo whooo! Unless you are the perfect person do not judge Vick. He paid his time, leave him alone. He may have admitted to strangling and drowning six dogs but it did not say he injoyed it. At this time I am buying a vick jersey and sending it to you.

 
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imalittlefish
almost 10 years ago

Hey bmpek, how about you use spell check for the next post there buddy!!!

 
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Chris Stoltzfus
almost 10 years ago

Lee, you're a gentleman with a good heart. With that being said, you really have no clue about, well a lot. Continue to save the world 1 monkey at a time.

 
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fastmonkey
almost 10 years ago

Letting Obama run the country is somewhat like letting Vick take care of your monkeys Lee. Would you really let that happen?? Different when it's so close to home now isn't it?

 
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JaxFull
almost 10 years ago

@LeeW

I am still very much a supporter of President Obama. I think he has been doing an incredible job...

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If you mean an incredible job like passing a so-called health care reform law that 60% of the people are against, that over 700 businesses have waivered out of and a majority of states have filed lawsuits to reverse then I guess Obama's done something -- TO us, not FOR us.

Prediction: Jimmy Carter will rise from the ashes to be second-worst president of all time. Who will be at the bottom? You know.

(FWIW, we don't agree politically but I still like your blog.)

 
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y00h00180
almost 10 years ago

I am part of that %60, because we need a single payer system. When big business is against it you know we are at least headed in the right direction.

 
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JaxFull
almost 10 years ago

@imalittlefish

Hey bmpek, how about you use spell check for the next post there buddy!!!

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Spell checkers only work when you're sober. :)

 
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iambobby
almost 10 years ago

For the money that Obama spent, every US citizen could have received about $22,000. Think about what a single parent family of 8 living in a small shotgun house could do with their share. ($176.000). Imagine what would happen to the economy if everyone had an extra 20K to donk off. Instead, we will all have to pay back a lot of money, that we received no benefit from.

With all of the debt we have created, you would think someone would know where the money went. I talk with business people all of the time, and NO ONE I have ever spoken to has received any of this money, other than the joke stimulus check.

Wake up Lee. Even my African American friends know Obama and his friends are scooping all of the cheese. They are no different than the white politicians. They are not here to pay your rent. Anyone who gets that high in politics makes M Vick seem like a saint.

As to your statement “I think he has been doing an incredible job”, please give a little more information. All of the blind supporters say the same thing, but can not give any facts. Please tell everyone about some of these incredible things Obama has done.

 
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showtime629
almost 10 years ago

If you thought he chose dogs because he could get away with it, than why would he choose an animal that is a pet, and an important part of American culture?

If in your opinion, that is the ONLY reason he chose dogs,why wouldnt he choose cockfighting? or lizards? or alligators? Surely it would be easier to get away with lizard fighting, than dog-fighting, correct? If you cannot understand the cultural significance and effect on WHY he chose to do that, than it is not something you will ever understand. It is not being an apologist on the crime, it is accepting that not everyone grows up in a lilly white world where you are shown the right choices to make everyday, without every experiencing the wrong ones for yourself. He did something horrible, and lost everything for it. He went to a federal penitentary and did his time...he rebuilt his life and is moving on.

What is the worst thing you have done in your life, Lee? Have you ever drove drunk? Ever put the lives of OTHER humans at risk with your irresponsible behavior? Im sure we all have...which makes it hysterical to hear someone try and make the case that he would do this humans, when in all reality, you have probably done things just as bad to other people.

And what exactly has Obama done? He is nothing more than a glorified Public Relations representative of America. He speaks well, but has done nothing of importance in terms of helping America out of one of the worst economical times in our country's history.

Instead of striving to get people jobs, he has made it easier to scam the system and be professionally unemployed. Why not? When you have the working people paying for your health care, unemployment benefits get extended, and welfare is as easy as popping out a kid for 3 years straight.

 
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blazerfan
almost 10 years ago

Just wonder how you feel about the wonderful tradition of the rodeo where all animals are treated as entertainment for our amusement?

 
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LeeW
almost 10 years ago

At least the cowboys are putting their health on the line too. I bet the rodeo stock has it better than your typical McDonalds cow.
Its a totally different thing, here I am more worried about the Bull Riders than the Bulls the bulls always win. Now Bullfighting is sickening and I feel now pitty for matadors that get gored.

 
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LeeW
almost 10 years ago

Should be no pitty for matadors..not now pitty

 
 

gangles
almost 10 years ago

Rodeos are pretty awful. Sometimes they shock the bulls testicles to get them to buck and fight as hard as they do.

 
 

hithenose
almost 10 years ago

Seriously you need to listen to your self. I am a dog lover also so there is bias, but if you are going to put yourself out there in a public forum at least make a relevant point. To think that humans and dogs are on the same level is psychotic, just because you have an attachment to some dogs stronger than you have to a person doesn't mean that the life of a dog is equal to that of a human. If it were cock fighting would you be as angry, no because you are not attached to them as you are to dogs.....

 
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LeeW
almost 10 years ago

Nothing in my blog equated dogs to humans. I said that anyone that enjoys strangling and drowning dogs, would probably prefer human victims if they weren't afraid of consequnces.
It is not like he was just caught at dog fights. I could understand that being ignorance and a product of his upbringing.

 
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fastmonkey
almost 10 years ago

Hey Fred if you don't like it here then why don't you get the hell out. Taking shots at Americans is pretty funny considering your defending the toilet of the world. Lebanon has contributed what to the world exactly??? Geez I'll bet that Liberal Lee will come to your rescue here now won't he.......

 
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y00h00180
almost 10 years ago

Be careful when speaking of one of the oldest civilisations in the world. What Lebanon has contributed to the world is in books you, apparently, haven't read yet.

They should, however, thank us for all the oppression we contribute.

 
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BigJoshL
almost 10 years ago

Obama has done nothing for this country except spend money we dont have and put the country into huge amounts of debt that will take years to get out of if ever.

That being said michael vick is a piece of shit who electrocuted dogs scrotum's for fun. I think it really shows a lot about you as a person if you support a guy like that.

 
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MrSydney
almost 10 years ago

Lebanon gave us the kebab!

 
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texasroadgambler
almost 10 years ago

"We must fight against the spirit of unconscious cruelty with which we treat the animals. Animals suffer as much as we do. True humanity does not allow us to impose such sufferings on them. It is our duty to make the whole world recognize it. Until we extend our circle of compassion to all living things, humanity will not find peace." Albert Schweitzer Nobel Laureate 1952

 
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y00h00180
almost 10 years ago

A gentleman and a scholar.

 
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biggreg64
almost 10 years ago

You are an idiot. Obama is the worst president since Carter. He wants to control every aspect of your life. He is as close to a commie as we have ever had. Thank God he will be gone in two years.

Stick to something you are good at Poker and leave the politics to people who know what they are talking about.

 
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biggreg64
almost 10 years ago

You are an idiot. Obama is the worst president since Carter. He wants to control every aspect of your life. He is as close to a commie as we have ever had. Thank God he will be gone in two years.

Stick to something you are good at Poker and leave the politics to people who know what they are talking about.

 
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L2K4FC
almost 10 years ago

Wow what an insightful disection of Obama's presidency. You hear that Lee: Just shut up because he said so. [rolling eyes] How could Obama possibly be worse than George Dubbya....seriously?

 
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AcesOverEights4
almost 10 years ago

Your opinion on here isn't going to be very popular biggreg, but I want to let you know that you are absolutely right about Obama being very close to being a Communist. While the media has portrayed him as the savior of this country and someone we should all be behind no matter what, the reality of the situation is that he supports things such as a civilian police force equally as powerful as our military (Hitler's secret police, anyone?), a "green police" that may enter anyone's home without a warrant and punish people for "crimes against the environment", the Boy Scouts' Explorers program that allows them to learn how to apprehend "terrorists" by using military tactics, as well as a program known as the Climate Cops that encourages young children to watch their parents and neighbors and report any activity that might be deemed harmful to the environment. These aren't just my opinions, that is all REAL, as scary as that may seem. Anyone who can look at things analytically and not allow their political views and opinions about "conspiracy theorists" to get in the way needs to watch a video called "The Obama Deception" and you will see what I am talking about. While I don't necessarily agree with absolutely everything that is said in the video, it did inspire me to go out and do research of my own and I realized that there is a scary amount of truth to many of the things that are discussed in the movie.

I'm with you biggreg, we can't allow ourselves to become complacent and just accept and believe everything the major media networks decide to tell us. This country is in a very REAL crisis and the things Obama has done are absolutely not the answer and are, in my opinion, oppressive to freedom and the philosophy contained within the Constitution that have allowed this country to become arguably the greatest in the world. Just wait until the dollar collapses and we're faced with extreme hyperinflation, then see how you all feel about President Obama.

 
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y00h00180
almost 10 years ago

Alex Jones's Infowars is laughable. I thought he was entertaining, to say the least, when he focused on Bush and 911. But, to see his seamless transition to Obama and the stuff you speak about made me realise how ridiculous he really is. He is either just as much the career opportunist as the worse politician or consciously distracting people from real issues.

IMHO, he is what conspiracy theorists call an "Agent of Misinformation".

 
 

pokerbotlee2
almost 10 years ago

Lee, im not going to have a cheap shot like many of the others. But i feel you missed the point in Obama's sentiment. Vick starting for the Eagles represents rehabilitation, as leader of a great nation that is something which must be encouraged. Many people make great mistakes, some of which they will regret and will pay for, for the rest of their lives. Seeing Vick (a well known public figure) sends the message that sometimes people get a second chance, and to never lose hope no matter how dark your situation seems. Thats what Obama was trying to highlight, not that he is a fan of Vicks rushing yards or of creulty to animals!!

I understand that your strongly against Vicks crimes, and it dosnt matter about your social circumstance creulty to animals is just plain sick!!! However in certain places, gambling is seen as shamefull and is also against the law. You think gambling is ok, and dog fighting is bad, others may feel the opposite. Some people support Obama, others dont. The point is that if somebody has been found guilty and served their time, they have the constitutonal right to a second chance, Vick is simply a good example of this. Would you agree?

 
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littleze
almost 10 years ago

Wow Pokerbotlee2, people usually don't make sense or display any signs of actual thought in these comments. Bravo, you said and you said it well.

 
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L2K4FC
almost 10 years ago

Hey Pokerbotlee, well said. But, I have to disagree based on the following: You propose that some people might find gambling wrong and dog fighting perfectly acceptable. The underlying principle being live and let live once a crime whatever it is has been "paid for" by doing the time. Using this logic, you could substitute pedophilia, murder, rape, burglary, etc for dog fighting. The problem is that gambling is a consentual activity between all involved while every other one of these things I have mentioned involves a Victim and in the case of dog fighting, and some of the others, lives are lost. I believe in second chances usually except in the case where cruel and unusual punishment was dealt out to a victim that basically had no way of defending itself, that being a dog or multiple dogs in Vicks case. It's a polarizing issue no doubt. But its an indefensible one for Vick when you really boil it all down.

 
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LeeW
almost 10 years ago

As a society we probably have to give him a second chance. I personally would like to see the matter handled by my man Dexter.

 
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AcesOverEights4
almost 10 years ago

Wow seriously? So you're saying you would rather Michael Vick be murdered for his crimes than be given a chance to rehabilitate himself and change his life? That is truly a despicable comment to post, joke or not. Don't act like you're so humane and better than Vick when you post things like that. Just disgusting.

 
 

AcesOverEights4
almost 10 years ago

And to clarify, I'm not saying that you are as bad as Michael Vick in any way, what he did to those poor dogs was an atrocity. All I am saying is that I feel that this post was inappropriate and immature.

 
 

LeeW
almost 10 years ago

I love the show and I would like to see what Dexter would do if he came across Michael Vick stringing up and drowning dogs. I think Dexter would recognize him as apsycho, but it is unclear to me whether he would wrap him up in plastic or not. I do think he would come up with something fitting and creative.

 
 

LeeW
almost 10 years ago

Of course if it were actually written into the show they would probably have the Vick character make the natural progression to human victims.

 
 

y00h00180
almost 10 years ago

I think it is a sad statement to our society's priorities when people rush to the defence of someone who committed such horrendous acts simply because he is some superficial celebrity.

Would you be saying this or even care if he wasn't a quarterback?

Rushing yards > dog torture?

And as for gambling, are you really equating that to dog torture? However, I'm all for "Dogs Playing Poker" and it is hanging on my wall right now.

 
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pokerbotlee2
almost 10 years ago

L2K4FC, yeah i hear ya man. I would never try to defend Vick for his actions, however whether you class burglary and dog fighting as being equally as serious as pedophilia, murder and rape is open for debate??!!!
They are all crimes i understand, and laws are there to protect people. Do you really want to live in a society with no second chances for anybody?? Once somebody goes down the wrong path and gets involved with any crime, should they be locked up for life or given the death penalty?!!
The justice system is far from perfect but without the idea of rehabilitation it simply would not work. Im not defending Vicks crimes at all, i am simply defending Obama's message that sometimes people who have made mistakes in life can learn from them, change and re-enter society.

 
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L2K4FC
almost 10 years ago

I'm not classifying them as equal crimes. I was just reiterating what you implied which was that if you are going to forgive criminals of their crimes across the board because they did the time, then you have to apply equal treatment to all. And I just don't think it is a realistic approach. I'm totally down with rehabilitation in some cases and I hope Vick did learn his lesson. However that doesn't mean I would ever support him or his "rights" in any way. Call me selfish! I'd expect nothing less from society if I was in his shoes.

 
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Jukeboksi
almost 10 years ago

I feel that Michael Vick is inferior to me, as a living, breathing thing or being. Therefore, I will strangle and drown his living, breathing body. I feel it is only right and fair, just like he did with those dogs.

Oh by the way, I am not american, so who's this Michael Vick anyway? Seems like a miserable piece of shit that should be offed asap.

 
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pokerbotlee2
almost 10 years ago

I never said nor implied that i would forgive all criminals "across the board" once they have served their time dude!!! Neither did i say you should apply equal treatment to all criminals!!
Different crimes deserve different punishments.
This blog post was not about Vicks crimes!! It was about Obama supporting his faith in the justice system. Thats the point i was making

 
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L2K4FC
almost 10 years ago

No worries, I guess I misunderstood. The statements below in particular are what I was referencing in my original reply. Have a good one.

..."The point is that if somebody has been found guilty and served their time, they have the constitutonal right to a second chance,...."

..."However in certain places, gambling is seen as shamefull and is also against the law. You think gambling is ok, and dog fighting is bad, others may feel the opposite."

 
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omahaace
almost 10 years ago

and all that $$$ obama is spending, 40 cents of every dollar is being borrowed !!!! who is going to pay that back??? he put us in a hole we may never get out of.. we need to cut back on spending not give more wellfare...

 
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LeeW
almost 10 years ago

There is only one way will get out off the hole as I see it....inflation. We will eventually pay off debts with dollars that are next to worthless....then start using new money. This is of course because of as Ron Paul says "The cost of maintaining our empire" nothing to do with anything done by Obama.

 
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y00h00180
almost 10 years ago

...and 50 cents on the tax dollar is going to the military. Cutting this by only a fraction would solve the crisis overnight and make the world a better place while maintaining a safety net for our nation's most vulnerable.

You with me?

 
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AcesOverEights4
almost 10 years ago

I come to CardPlayer because I like reading poker news as well as informative blogs about POKER. Save us your political views and personal opinion of Michael Vick. How about actually writing about your poker experiences, recent results, etc. instead. Find another forum to post this and start blogging about poker.

But since you have chosen to write about this pointless topic, I guess I will retort. Obama has NOT done a incredible job, pay attention to what's really happening. He has done the opposite of almost all of his campaign promises, spent tons of money bailing out our corrupt banking system as well as allow the Fed to receive over a trillion dollars from the U.S. Treasury and then sit in front of Congress and blatantly refuse to tell them how the money has been spent. It sickens me to see so many people thinking of Obama as the "savior" of our country that haven't taken the time to do independent unbiased research into what he has actually done for us. And also, what bothers me about this is that our President doesn't need to be spending his time speaking publicly about things like the "stupid" cops from Cambridge, his pick to win the NCAA men's basketball tournament, his opinions on Michael Vick, etc. And now he's even got a big interview with Bill O'Reilly that's part of the Super Bowl broadcast? Ridiculous. He keeps himself in the media as much as possible for whatever reason he can think of and, in my personal opinion, worries way to much about what people's opinion of him is when what this country really needs is a leader who can make the hard choices to bring our country back regardless of how it will be publicly perceived.

 
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L2K4FC
almost 10 years ago

Aces: I think your last statement is the best one. But I don't know that there is any "our country" to really bring back. We are at such a unique phase in human history. And we are just in the beginning of it. Instant worldwide communications, the Internet etc, have changed everything. Average everyday people know so much more about what is going on in the world, look at Egypt, Tunisia, Yemen....its just the beginning! I don't think we are ready for that leader yet and that is why Obama won't do it. Things are going to get a lot worse before someone buckles down and says "Enough!". Anyway, why bash the blogs bro? There are many other sites you could get just straight poker from. This blog is so much more interesting. If you want a "straight poker" blog, check out Barry Shulman's perspective on what it would take to be a good cash game player...it'll knock your socks off Lmao!!!

 
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AcesOverEights4
almost 10 years ago

You really think Obama won't do what needs to be done because we aren't ready for that leader yet? Obama won't do what needs to be done because it would undermine the agenda of the banking elites (i.e. The Bilderberg Group) that are behind the scenes pulling his strings. He's a puppet and there's a considerable amount of evidence to back it up. Go do some real research into his policies and the things he's done since he's been in office and how they're actually affecting people across the country. You're right though, things ARE going to get a lot worse before someone says enough, which is why we need that person RIGHT NOW so that we can begin to repair things before this country collapses. You can go on believing that we have lots of time and that our situation isn't that dire, but the fact of the matter is countries are already starting to lose confidence in the dollar rapidly because of the crisis that we're in. The dollar could collapse at any time, and when that happens this country will be thrown into absolute chaos.

And as far as bashing this blog goes, my point is that this is CARDPLAYER.com and Lee is a PRO POKER PLAYER. That is what he is an expert on, and I would much rather read about his poker expertise than his personal political opinions or his opinion on Michael Vick. This is really interesting I agree, it has sparked a great discussion between the people commenting, but Lee ought to stick to things he knows, unless of course he just enjoys having multiple people destroy him in an argument about President Obama, which is what has happened.

 
 

y00h00180
almost 10 years ago

AcesOverEights4 ,
Funny, I see Michael Vick as a moral topic and not a political one. Is there a dog torture reform bill being passed?

Lee never mentioned politics, other than he supports Obama.... still.

It seems the people commenting are insisting on talking politics and I think Lee has been consistent on blogging about poker AND politics, which even you yourself have engaged in until you were made to look foolish.

 
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LeeW
almost 10 years ago

Poker has a pretty good and straight forward set of rules that makes interesting topics not that easy to come by. Look up the definition of a blog, it is just the bloggers thoughts and oppinions. I think a lot of other poker players enjoy discussing/arguing various topics with other poker players. It's kind of like the guy at the table that dosen't want anyone to talk about anything but poker, cause "we're here to play poker." What in the poker world do you think would be an interesting blog topic? I am always looking for ideas.

 
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texasroadgambler
almost 10 years ago

AcesOverEights:

Perhaps you should restrict your reading of the CP blogs to Andrew Brokos if you are only interested in discussions about poker hands and strategy. There are some very well-reasoned discussions that take place there.

 
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LeeW
almost 10 years ago

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2zTQwWaPps&NR=1&feature=fvwp

 
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JaxFull
almost 10 years ago

@LeeW
If the GOP wants to get rid of the mandate(which I too oppose) in "Obama care" thats easy, add the public option...

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Obama reminds me of a degen poker player who only knows one move: "all in."

The government runs lots of things and almost all are failures. Our kids aren't getting a proper education via the Education Department and the Energy Department hasn't produced any energy. The US military is a success but only because we pay a hell of a price (it's worth it) to get the job done. The government has had a healthcare plan in operation for 45 years and it's going broke. Why should we believe that suddenly the government can do what it never has been able to do before?

Just say "all in" and throw more money at it -- until you're totally bankrupt.

 
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JaxFull
almost 10 years ago

@striike
our constitution and country were not designed to support 300+ million people. No gvt program can work, No government can succeed and certainly no politician can be successful with a country this large.

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China? India?

(BTW, nice diatribe. Bill Maher couldn't have done better.)

 
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JaxFull
almost 10 years ago

@striike
"China? India?"

i said OUR constitution was not designed for 300+ million . thank you for proving my point. we do not have the same laws, organization, or structure as china or india. THANKFULLY.

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Ok, so our constitution can't handle 300+ million but China's and India's apparently can? So we need to be more like them?

 
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JaxFull
almost 10 years ago

@striike
... That is my point. we should be nothing like them. we should divide our country into smaller countries.

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Why not just get back to the full force and meaning of the 10th Amendment? Then we'll have 50 countries automatically. (Just like we were supposed to have in the beginning.)

 
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texasroadgambler
almost 10 years ago

Jax:

The last time we tried that, it cost 650,000+/- lives if my memory serves me correctly.

 
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JaxFull
almost 10 years ago

Damned Bluebellies...

 
 
 
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