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Weekly Rant: Integrity

by Daniel Negreanu |  Published: Nov 23, '12

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Chuck3
9 years ago

"YOUR word is ALL you have ................. !!! "

 
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Rob3
9 years ago

I feel the reason does not matter regardless of why somebody stole from you. My theory is (in a situation where it's a friend) most of the time, if you come to me and have a legitimate reason to borrow money and I can afford to help... I will help. I had a similar situation occur with a good friend a few years back, after time passed he apologized. I shook his hand, said I respect the apology. However, I cannot bring myself to associate with him again as a friend.

Also, I'm digging the 'Andre Agassi' look you have going on Daniel!

 
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elchupacartas
9 years ago

Danny Boy, I heard once there is no crying in baseball and I want to add there is no integrity, or honesty in poker. The game teaches you to lie, steal and basically be dishonest or do whatever you have to do to win. If you can't bluff them snuff them. Steal blinds, mis represent your hand, flat out bluff your victims, prey on the weak, slaughter the donkeys, meanwhile the donkeys kids and family at home are going hungry or the house payment is missed, the millions you have made is blood money. Your/our industry is made up of dishonest people, yourself included. I have seen you on TV falt out bluff, misrepresent your hand, try to talk people out of calling you, and also steal blinds many times. Don't kid yourself. Saying your honest or that have you integrity is an oxymoron. Only other people can say that about you. Never YOU. It's like saying you are humble, just by saying it, you are disqualified from being humble. Don't get me wrong I don't think you are a bad guy, but you are dishonest. And steal all the time. Some would call you a cheat if you do that. So Howard Lederer Got caught bluffing, just like when you got caught bluffing on High Stakes poker so guess what? You lose and so will Howard. He already has lost, Life has a way of paying you back for good or bad and charging you for your mistakes. It's a high price we all must pay, there is no choice in paying the vig on life. There is something wrong with saying "our poker world has honesty and integrity" it just doesn't go with our industry. I don't care how you sugar coat it. The donkeys you slaughter on a daily basis are someone's dad, husband, and most cannot afford to gamble. And our industry loves it when a fresh new crop of donkeys arrive and bring more millions for you to win. How much of the millions you have won do you think was food that should of been on the table for some poor kids who have a dad who is a sick compulsive gamble? I love the ads harrahs does on gambling responsively? Can there be such a thing? Let us take your money responsibly. We have a license to steal so it is okay...you will love it....come on that is nuts....

I do enjoy your blog so keep it coming, it keeps the fire burning in many, but don't be blind...This is a very dishonest industry with no integrity. It carefully plans and designs ways to strip people of their money. It is a science......That is just my opinion....

 
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Nicholas1
9 years ago

Both cases of stealing are wrong and I wouldn't ever talk to the person again regardless. I like the idea on having a clock, and I am calling the clock on you Daniel because you are taking to long to put out these video blogs. :)

 
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Chris29
9 years ago

either way, it's wrong. stealing is stealing no matter the reason. If you have a legitimate reason or you are desperate, just ask to borrow it, it's as simple as that.

 
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THEJOEF
9 years ago

Integrity -Balance - Honesty

Dude keep telling yourself and everyone else how honest and forthright you are. In life people that feel the need to always remind others of how honest they are, turn out to be completely dishonest . You attempt to save face of your "industry" which is not an industry for 99% of the people who contribute to it. I wish that you were honest about the poker world. If you were truthful you wouldn't sugar coat what your "industry " is. I understand its the way that you earn in this world but that's not gonna fly with some of us. You forgive anyone from the Poker Stars stable from wrong doing ? How is this balance? These cheaters are exactly like Pete Rose and should sent packing for life as was Pete.
You once again have proven how you just zero in in people that you hate and please dont say that you dont hate anyone because you 100% hate the brother and the sister. You always manage to mention Lederer. The DOJ has the money now why not use your time to bury them?

To everyone else that watches this rant , notice how Danny mentions everyone else's name except one. " His Friend" , he won't say "his friends" name. His friend is a money grabbing hustler just like Lederer but yet he doesn't get hammered to death by good old , Balanced, Honest, Integrity driven Danny Boy!!! The most honest thing I've seen you do is shave that head.

 
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zerofan
9 years ago

Pete Rose didnt "cheat" you fool. He bet on baseball. Thank you, you can now proceed to lose your mind again.

 
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Tahosa65
9 years ago

Integrity. So many people talk around and around the issue. Daniel confronts it. Whether or not you like Daniel or you think he spends too much time criticizing Howard and company, you have to admit that very often, integrity is missing in our world today. In the poker world, Full Tilt is an example of the lack of integrity costing many people a lot of money. Yeah the DOJ has the money now and we are all hostage to their whims. But the underlying dishonesty that was Full Tilt is all on Howard and the others that ran the company. I truly doubt that Howard has missed a car payment because of his activities at Full Tilt. There are a lot of people in this country who cannot say the same.

 
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THEJOEF
9 years ago

You are the fool my friend . If you play MLB you can not bet the sport why?
Gamblers , all gamblers will take a edge if its right in front of them.
If you think Pete Rose didn't cheat you are a complete fool. If you think that Danny doesn't use all his skill to increase his over all income, you again are a fool.
He is a business man and I have no problem with that I'm just not listen to him rip people apart that he hates.

 
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THEJOEF
9 years ago

I have no problem with him calling out people . My problem is that he only calls out the people he has an axe to grind with. He should be ripping into everyone of these Full Tilt people and any other con artist in poker. His boy Hellmuth was at UB just as long as as Duke was. I wish he would be a man and hammer all of them or just shut his mouth. Listen to his latest blog very carefully , now he's protecting these other cheaters. He doesn't even have the guts to say his friends name. He even lays out his game clock ruling but admits that he struggles to use the rule against his co- worker Selbst. I'm telling you that this guy has zero back bone. The easiest thing in the world is to crush someone when they are down. I've played poker with Eric Lindgrin and the guy is a complete jerk. That being said I don't like to see anyone's life go up in smoke. Just getem all Danny or leave it alone.

 
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bparmalee
9 years ago

Most of the people that got involved in gambling before the poker boom were looking for an "edge" on life. They didn't want to work a real job and they wanted to live a certain lifestyle. Most of them were all around hustlers... they graduated out of the pool hall if you will. All pool hall hustlers are liars and cons. They try to set up games that favor them while being dishonest about their ability. These are the people that ended up benefiting most from the poker boom and were elevated to heights they didn't deserve to be. If you give these con men/women the guise of reputability and the "keys to your house" (so to speak) they are going to rob you... it's all they know how to do. If these people were good business people and had better life skills they never would have ended up gambling for a living. There are exceptions to this but not as many as people would like to think. At least the younger guys that got involved because of internet poker seem to have more options available to them if/when poker doesn't work out but that just isn't the case with the older gamblers. You wouldn't walk into a pool hall and say "Hey you look like a nice guy.... let me give you access to millions of dollars." So why the hell would anyone ever do that in a poker room?

 
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swallsjr
9 years ago

I didn't know Andre Agassi played poker ?

 
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literation
9 years ago

Wow Daniel, did you go to a retreat or discover MBSR? I don't think it was due to a reread of The Power of Now. The shaven head must be associated with the weekend. This was no rant, you are serene.

 
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Tharizdun
9 years ago

Daniel,

A teenager is expected to make mistakes. If a 40 year old grown man makes the same mistakes a 17 year old boy might make don't you think there's a difference?
How long do you give your "friend" to come clean? If he doesn't apologize/admit to his guilt or whatever does he still remain your friend? If he "stole" 1 million or whatever hypothetical amount and now that money is gone you have expectations he will do what he can to make it right. Meanwhile, he's basically in hiding/denial stage and you're supportive of him because in your fair opinion he's not a blatant thief. What's the difference right now between your friend and those guys who blew you off and never paid you back your 11 thousand dollars? Isn't what your friend did basically exactly the same thing as what those guys did to you? You gave them 1 week and they were blowing you off/non responsive? So you manned up and talked to the bookies and did the right thing. Your friend owes MILLION/S of dollars?!? You gave those guys 1 week to come to the conclusion that you were never going to see your 11K. How long does your "friend" get? Your argument defending him/her is not logical/reasonable but you stated the emotional aspect which is understandable. Don't let your friend drag you down with him...

 
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Tharizdun
9 years ago

Note: The old saying, "With a friend like that, who needs enemies"
exists because of this scenario you find yourself in right now;)

 
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Phelps1183
9 years ago

I'm not really understanding why some of you have an issue with this blog. He said he's been dishonest before and learned from it b/c the people he deceived were VERY understanding. There actually is a way to gamble responsibly, if you can afford to possibly lose the money you are gambling with, you are doing it responsibly. If you gamble the house payment or grocery money, that's gambling irresponsibly. Just b/c poker requires a level of deceit, doesn't mean people who play poker are dishonest off the felt. It's a game. Your objective is to beat your opponent and win their chips/money. When he talks about there being honesty and integrity in the poker world, he's referring to the off the table situations of loaning/borrowing money. Y'all don't like him naming his friend but calling out Lederer but you're not seeing that these are 2 different situations. With Lederer, Daniel called him out b/c Howard stole from millions of online players and basically was instrumental in the downfall of online poker in the US. He was trying to stand up and speak for the poker community in general. Not to mention, Howard and Annie have a reputation of being very dishonest so this was like the last straw. The situation with his friend was a personal experience. If he feels the situation will be corrected by his "friend" and doesn't feel the need to call him out, that shouldn't be a problem. The issue with UB and FTP, isn't about who was the face of the company, it was about who was running the company. That's the people who were responsible for the wrongdoing. Ivey and other FTP pro's didn't know how negligently the company was being run. It was Bitar, Lederer, Ferguson, Furst, etc that are the flat out criminals. Should he call Ivey out for receiving "loans" from a company who was SPONSORING him to play poker?! Lol As for the shot clock, he said he struggled with calling on his friend but he ultimately called it on her. Notice he's being HONEST! Some of you have basically called him dishonest yet in his rant, he called himself out for being dishonest with the bookies and with struggling to treat his friends the same as stranger at the table. He acknowledged it's something that was tough but he had to do it.

 
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THEJOEF
9 years ago

Stay stupid , what do i care. Steal a few million and im sorry fixes it? Dont pay debts and act like its ok ? Picking and choosing is not fair.
I got news for you !! I dont care who steals ,robs , swindles,cons or check raises. I just want a guy with a little power to nail them all to the wall or shut up. God help him if Stars ever gets caught stealing. Look i give him a ton of credit , he is making a living in the business of poker. He won at the perfect time and parlayed it into a nice life. He doesnt have to win a single hand of poker for the rest of his life. He played his hand perfectly ! Thats all this whole deal is just one long continues hand. If the 1% at the top keep this nonsense going , its all good.
Its like swimmimg, the real world dosent give a shit until the olympics.
In poker no cares about the day to day until the WSOP on ESPN. Well at least they use to.

 
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Phelps1183
9 years ago

Stay stupid?! You sound like a very bitter, vindictive person. I don't understand why you need to know the name of his friend who stole from him? What if it's someone who is not famous and you don't know em? What good would come from him calling him out? It sounds like you think b/c someone is successful at poker, they are dishonest, bad people.
If you have issues with Daniel's personal opinion blog, don't watch it. It's simple.

 
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THEJOEF
9 years ago

Bitter ? Could be. Vindictive? Never. This is amazing. Is this a real person that breathes air in this world? We all know who his friends is = ERIC LINDGRIN. That is not the point of the discussing. I find his rants/blogs entertaining but not in the same way that you might. I enjoy watching the game that he runs on people like yourself. Hes been doing it so long that he don't even know hes doing it. He thinks everyones a stone cold fish like you. To his credit , hes pretty much correct.

 
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Phelps1183
9 years ago

Haha I'm a "fish" b/c I take his BLOG for what it actually is?! So if you know who his friend his why are so adamant about him saying his name?! What game is he running? Why are you so invested in his blog?

 
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THEJOEF
9 years ago

Its all a game , every last drop of it . I'm invested because I do not appreciate the way he singles out certain people and gives others a pass. Either point out all acts of criminal activity or just leave it alone. In this poker world he has a certain amount of power to sway the thinking of people. He slants everything his way or towards his friends. Im ok with that but don't try to hustle me into thinking that hes all for one and one for all. He's all for ONE all right! I give up , have a happy holiday season.

 
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