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Poker: The Stuff Divorces Are Made Ofby dtools22 | Published Apr 18, 2012 
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Spending a lot of time in the casino you tend to see the same types of people. There are the guy who’re doing the same thing you are, putting in hours upon hours at the tables. You’ll see the “after work crowd” who like to come to the casino to get drunk during happy hour rather than head to the bar across the street from the office. My personal favorite is the couple. Yes the couple, usually consisting of a guy who is very into poker and a woman who is very into her man. Together they make for endless entertainment, and just to illustrate my point I brought some examples with me to share.
Couple number one is more or less the cookie cutter example of what you’ll see. The guy is taking poker seriously. He may not be the best, but he watches poker on TV so he thinks he can handle the casino environment. He’s decked out in his finest “cool clothes.” It could be a button down shirt with some graphics on it, could be his most baller T-shirt, the point is he’s peacocking for the night. His significant other however is less than enthused about the entire process. To her poker is just some silly game that’s played in a casino. It’s all just gambling anyway. She sits behind her man and pulls out either her iPhone or iPad and starts playing games and texting friends.
An example of this couple sat down at one of my tables a few weeks ago. Long story short, the gentleman got his money in on the flop with QQ on a 6d5s3s flop. The board ran blank on the turn and a 6 on the river at which point his opponent tabled his 6s4s to win the hand. The guy just chuckled to himself and mucked his hand. Afterwards he turned to his girlfriend and asked her for more money, which made me chuckle a bit. He must have gotten some kind of look from his girl because when he turned back to the table he said, “OK guys, can you please explain to my girl what just happened and why I need to reload? She doesn’t understand poker. She doesn’t understand how unlucky I just got and how I did all I could.” No one took the bait. I seriously doubt the ride home that night was very much fun for him. If you’re going to call out your soul mate at the table, you might want to bring separate cars.
Couple number two is a younger couple. Neither of them is all that experienced at a casino and they are here sharing the moment together. Neither one really wants to wander far from the other because they are so unsure of their surroundings. As a result, they have no concept of personal space with each other. There was one such couple at one of my tables and they were sitting directly to my right. The guy was playing, the girl was watching on the rail. Normally this isn’t really a problem but this woman had three things working against her that pissed me off.
1) She decided to sit directly in between my chair and her boyfriend’s so every time I pushed my chair back to get up from the table it would bang into her chair.
2) After the first time I banged into her chair I looked over at her, she was one of those girls who wasn’t attractive but had that “hot bitch” attitude because she had a man.
3) She kept bouncing her hoof up and down next to me and poking her boyfriend with it.
I was on the tail end of my session anyway so I left without saying anything.
Bottom line, I don’t understand how either the guy or the girl can be enjoying themselves. Guys, at some point it’s ok to have a life outside your relationship. Ladies, your man is considering this “quality time” so don’t be shocked when you want to do something the next day and he says, “We just spent all day yesterday together.” Not all couples are like this either. There are the occasional couples they get it right, and each play poker, at different tables, on different sides of the room, and reconvene 4 hours later to get some food together and talk about their luck. Eh, whatever works I suppose.
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Comments
WPS22
1 year ago
Someone should have turned to the girl in the first story and explained that her man got his money in with 35% equity and was so stupid that he thought he was a favorite.
answer20
1 year ago
No ... even fish need a bait mate sometimes ... let the girl think he lost to a 5 outer so he can stick around and spread the wealth. (she may not know what a straight or flush is ... ) Stack sizes being unknown here ... but he still needed to beware of that flop and he would then have then been 'slightly' unlucky to run into an opponent who had a holding that was going to the river no matter what.
clunker
1 year ago
Actually depending on what happened per flop raise or slow play and what position was the 64 sitting the guy could have gotten unlucky. This is only half a story. What was the pre flop action. Once he got the blank on the turn he actually became a pretty big favorite.
WPS22
1 year ago
After the blank on the turn he's 55% to win, I don't see how thats a big favorite, or why that would even be relevant. The money went in on the flop and he was a 35/65 dog.
clunker
1 year ago
The odds do change from from 17 outs 2x 45 unknown cards to 17 outs 1x 44 unknown cards. He does not stay and underdog after the turn so when the money went in actually becomes irrelevant.And like I said there is no preFlop recap of action which also means some thing.
clunker
1 year ago
qq vs 64 s pre is a 4 to 1 fav. approx. after flop the 64 is 57 43 fav approx. after the turn the qq is 66 to 34 fav.. Using card player odds calculator. No where near the odds you quote WPS22. He got unlucky.
dtools22
1 year ago
I don't actually recall the stack sizes of the hand in the first story. My point in sharing it was just to get to the part where the guy posterizes his girl, saying she doesn't understand how poker works, while he is asking her for a $300 reload.
My best recollection, QQ had about $150 in front of him and was in MP. I believe he made it $10 or so preflop and got 3 callers, one of them being Mr. 64, who has probably $400 behind. The 64 leads the flop for pot and QQ jams. Others fold around. I think that was the action.
WPS22
1 year ago
LOL if you enter the hand into the cardplayer odds calculator the exact way he wrote it, you will get the exact odds I quoted. I used pokerstove the first time, but just to indulge you i used the "cardplayer odds calculator" and surprisingly I got the same results.
Now that we have a recap of pre flop action that proves each player put $10 in pre flop and $140 in after, does that change your mind at all?
You are right you can't really judge until you know the pre flop action. However, I think the pre flop action in this case was pretty obvious (as has been confirmed). Logic would dictate that 64s probably didn't put much in pre flop, and since they got stacks in, the majority of the money obv got in on the flop, where QQ was 35%.
WPS22
1 year ago
"He does not stay and underdog after the turn so when the money went in actually becomes irrelevant."
Do you really believe this? Do you really think that if you get your money in as a dog on the flop, then hit a fortunate turn card that puts you ahead, that it becomes irrelevant when the money went it?
clunker
1 year ago
What are you taking about WPS22 the only cards you know are qq and 64 s. What other known cards are you entering to get the odds you state. Given the info as stated in the blog you don't even know how many people are at the table Using your logic the qq was a 4 to 1 favorite pre flop so the 64 never became a favorite in the hand. Yes I think after the blank on the turn I really am the favorite going to the river card. Yes when the money went in is irrelevant because even if there was a bet on the turn the 64 is not folding. The guy was obviously a goof ball if he,s asking his girlfriend reload money.
clunker
1 year ago
I re=entered the cards and the odds do come up as said WPS22 so I apologize for that mistake The guy was still really a 55-45 fav to the river and hit and unfortunate card. When the money goes in is not relevant to what the odds are at each point in the hand.
popskull
1 year ago
Great post, too bad math-heads can't read it. :D
Last time I played live in AC there was some Euro guy with a greasy ponytail with his girl. Short-handed, one of the players asked if she'd like to play. He said, very briskly, "She's not allowed." Shortly thereafter she left briefly, came back, and he left with her.