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Poker Pros Doyle Brunson, Vanessa Selbst Get In Ugly Twitter Exchange

Political Discussion Quickly Turns Personal

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As election day draws near, it appears that politics have driven a huge wedge between two of the best no-limit hold’em players the game has ever seen.

Poker Hall of Famer Doyle Brunson and three-time bracelet winner Vanessa Selbst got into it on Thursday over Trump vs. Clinton. The argument began with Brunson saying something anti-Clinton and Selbst chiming in. It ended with both poker players taking a shot at each other’s character in the gambling world.

Brunson referenced a controversial prop bet Selbst had this past summer at the World Series of Poker with Jason Mercier. Selbst responded, “Yeah, paying $100,000 [equals] welching. I doubt you want to start a debate about ethics in poker.”

The 83-year-old poker legend no longer competes at the WSOP, but he’s still a fixture in high-stakes cash games in Las Vegas. Selbst, 32, is a Yale Law School grad and the top female tournament earner of all time.

 
 
 
 

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FancEs
1 year ago

And Vanessa being a typical left winger only free speech allowed is what she agrees with everything else is hate grow up Van

 
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pokerfan867
1 year ago

Vanessa has a huge chip on her shoulder and an ugly, ugly personality. Can't think of another player that so polarizes opinion about her... Helmuth is close, but Selbst is in another league.

 
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shakhtar
1 year ago

It's amazing how many full time poker players (the epitome of the independent, free market non-conformist) are ultra leftist progressive loons. Selbst, Boree, and some pathetic commie named Collins are three real bad ones off the top of my head, there are many more. The comical thing is, they try to portray themselves as intelligent, deep thinkers who are "smart enough" to know what's right for the "world". In reality, they never inject an original thought as they simply regurgitate generic and broad progressive talking points and narratives.
If these poor souls only realized what these narratives true aims are, and the sick, twisted global elitists and their internationalist ambitions who designed them, and their utter disdain for the "common" man that they they view as fodder or goyim, I would hope these progressive cheerleaders and lecturers among us would be embarrassed, angry, and somewhat repentant. Alas, they're too far gone (and trained too well) to ever see what is plainly evident to those who think freely, and open their eyes in their pursuit of real truth and human liberty.

 
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Lawrence6
1 year ago

You actually have it pretty correct except for one thing. Which party wants to cut taxes for the elite vs the poor? Which party wants to educate the poor? Which party serves the anti-science wing that comes up with excuses for billion dollar corporations to continue destroying the environment? You'll find the answer if you ask yourself these questions.

 
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AceupmySlv
1 year ago

Ummm, Vanessa is a Yale Law School grad, so who is the one just spewing hate here shak? I don't think she needs to 'portray' herself as intelligent, she is extremely intelligent. Granted, Vanessa is not a good person, nor a friendly person, but she is pretty spot on in her argument with Doyle. You prove the point that the 'right' followers are the ones that just spew hate and call people names rather than address ANY real points of a proper debate and/or the issues at hand.

 
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keeentd
1 year ago

You know I sat next to Vanessa in several cash games at the WSOP over the years and she is not a nice person. I think you can see the anger in her tweets, she is just miserable.

 
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fladave
1 year ago

Vanessa and Daniel should ride off into the sunset and take their Lefty BS to some other part of the planet. Or, they should divide up their assets and trophies with other less fortunate players because its just not "equal" for only some players to win, what about the losers that are now Busto? Hardly seems fair. Make America great again.....USA. And like any Poker player would side with her over Doyle....Yeah right!

 
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AceupmySlv
1 year ago

I got news for you, most poker player would side with Vanessa on the issues at hand. Doyle may be a legend, but every time he opens his mouth or participates in social media, the racist and bigoted part of him shines through brightly. 90% of players under the age of 50 side with Vanessa's views over Doyle's. Vanessa herself may not be very well liked and deservingly so, but your post could not be more off base.

 
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any2foru
1 year ago

"90% of a large population agree with a POV that I agree with"...

I am so relieved that there are still people playing this game without the slightest concept of math & statistics. It's slightly more foolish than, "Joe Schmo must be smart because he attended a school that intelligent people have attended". If we can just get someone to throw out the blind racist/bigot comment to chastise someone with an opposing view we would have the trifecta of foolish comments. D'oh!

 
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AceupmySlv
1 year ago

Trying to say smart things does not make you smart. You are trying to discredit things that are known facts. There is a huge difference between 'attending a school that other intelligent people attended' and graduating from Yale's Law School, that is notorious for being one of the toughest in the nation. "To not recognize intelligence, shows a lack of intelligence." Her intelligence is not debatable. The way she handles herself and the ways she acts, can certainly be debated.

If you cannot recognize Doyle's view on the statements in question, then I cannot help you. It is all there in his blogs and tweets. Just use your brain a little. He comes from a different time and generation that had radically different views on many things that would not be acceptable today. Nor should they be.

 
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any2foru
1 year ago

Intelligent & educated are two very different things. I see nothing above that would lead me to believe Doyle said anything racist or bigoted, any more than I see evidence of Selbst's intelligence, and to believe he's racist just because of his age is as foolish as believing that 90% of players under the age of 50 are left-minded vs. right-minded. That's just absurd. Especially given the fact that the game is rooted in math, which predominately attracts people with a conservative mindset, as opposed to those on the left, which generally gravitate towards artistic fields.

 
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fladave
1 year ago

So here's how elite high level poker players should settle differences. They should each post up one million dollars and sit down for a ten game mix. To the victor goes the spoils and to Vanessa goes the memories. Then the whole poker community can make side bets on who will win and the poker media can cover it, the host casino benefits from it and we can all enjoy the action. I'm fairly certain that Doyle would go for it in a heartbeat, big question is what will she do? Plus, loser has to wear the opposing sides "vote for" button until the election........Game on!

 
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Alan23
1 year ago

One of the more annoying debate cop-outs is "Y U NO USE FACTS OR LOGIC?!?!?" and then not bothering to articulate just where one is factually or logically deficient.

It's not unique to the left or the right, it's not even a smart/stupid thing. There are smart people who do that. It's important that whenever someone uses that very predictable rhetoric, call them down on it and demand just what deficiency they're talking about.

Note how they come up short.

 
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