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Poker Hand Of The Week -- 11/17/12

You Decide What's The Best Play

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Ask any group of poker players how you played your hand and they’ll come up with dozens of different opinions. That’s just the nature of the game.

Each week, Card Player will select a hand from the high-stakes, big buy-in poker world, break it down and show that there’s more than one way to get the job done.

The Scenario

You are sitting at the final table and there are four players remaining. With blinds at 25,000-50,000 with a 5,000 ante and a stack of 2,640,000, you are in second place.

You look down at 5Spade Suit5Heart Suit and min-raise on the button to 100,000. The chip leader, who holds over 60 percent of the chips in play, calls from the small blind. The player in third place, with a stack of 1,520,000, calls from the big blind.

The flop comes down 8Heart Suit8Diamond Suit2Diamond Suit and both of your opponents check. You continue with a bet of 165,000. The small blind folds and the big blind check-raises to 370,000.

Your opponent has 1,045,000 behind. The short stack, not involved in the hand, is sitting with 865,000.

The Questions

Do you call, raise or fold? If calling, what is your plan for the turn? What cards are you looking to see that will allow you to continue in the hand? If raising, how much? What types of hands could your opponent be holding? Do you anticipate your raise getting a flush draw to call or fold? If folding, why?

Byron KavermanWhat Actually Happened

At the World Poker Tour Jacksonville Fall Poker Scramble, Hans Winzeler continued with a bet of 165,000 on a flop of 8Heart Suit 8Diamond Suit 2Diamond Suit. Noah Schwartz folded and Byron Kaverman check-raised to 370,000.

Winzeler called and the turn was the seemingly innocent 10Club Suit. Kaverman bet 380,000 and Winzeler called. The river was the 8Club Suit and Kaverman took his time before moving all in for 615,000.

Winzeler eventually called and mucked when Kaverman turned over 10Spade Suit 8Spade Suit for quad eights.

Winzeler never recovered and was eliminated in fourth place, cashing for $106,848. Kaverman made it to heads-up play, busting in second place for $236,592. Schwartz picked up his first WPT title at his fourth final-table appearance, earning a career high $402,970.

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Joe8
2 years ago

Easy fold to the check-raise on the flop. What hands are you beating even at this point?

 
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686shred
2 years ago

This is an easy fold for me. Coming off the button with a min-raise, and the small-blind coming into the hand, it is an easy pre-flop call for the big-blind. An 8 is well within range for the BB, and I think that it is easy for him to put me on the type of hand I have, small to mid pair. The Big Blind would not make that move with nothing, and there is nothing that we beat.

 
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Jay8
2 years ago

I think a fold is not a very profitable way to play this hand. The check raise really polarisese he's hand. trip 8's, a flush draw or complete air.You obviously have to consider streets ahead. But the most important thing about the situation is history between the hero and the villian. Seen as two thirds of the villians "polarised range" you have beat. Given there being a short stack at the table. I think the optimum play is to 4 bet and really put the villain under pressure. And given the situation if he has a flush draw i think he will more than likely fold. Once again given the short at the table. If he flats than check fold mode

 
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Sam2
2 years ago

i agree

 
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Jay8
2 years ago

Obviously we can see the cards, but if you are continually folding in these spots. Then you will be easy to run over, knowing your opponent helps a lot in the decision making in these spots. But this is also one of those situations where you should be thinking what to do if he reraises and how much he will bet the turn if you flat call the 3bet. Anticipating your opponents actions is a massive egde. And when used frequently you can almost start reading your opponents minds and get them to do what you want them to do

 
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SiN8FuL
2 years ago

This is an easy fold. An 8 is easily within villians range and even if he has a flush draw he almost certainly has two overs as well so it's either a shove or a fold especially with the short stack. I just don't think your opponent is bluffing enough in this spot and if he is semi bluffing with two overs and a flush draw he will probably call you off if you ship it in. Your beating nothing fold and move on.

 
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Jay8
2 years ago

See thats the thing "your opponent" isn't bluffing enough. You don't know how he plays. And when i play i am more than capable of making this play. You are making a more than likely A or K high fold to the reraise. Depends on the depth of thought from the players. And the villian made the reraise making the hero think he was doing the above mentioned. I am telling you if you are folding more often than staying in the hand, you are missing out. And you will find if you flat the flop and they have flush draws with overs and spike an over. Any decent player will slow down now that they have showdown value unless they have a really good read

 
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hobanwestport
2 years ago

Fold,,,,,,,,,,,,,, period wait for a better oppertunity
Shamus

 
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PANTERA
2 years ago

1.Raise 2.6bb pre.
2.Four bet flop,fold to push.
3.Call 3 bet,push turn.

top 3 options in order.

 
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Joe7
2 years ago

Okay, when you get check raised here you have to bein to ask yourself what possible hands could my opponent have that he would check raise this flop with. The most plausible hands in this scenario are obviously any 8, two overs with a flush draw, pocket 2's, and any pocket pair higher than yours. So now that you've weighed the likely hands your opponent may have (unless he's just a complete maniac check raising flops at the final table with air) Now you can weigh how you hand play's against these certain hands

Against any 8 you're dead to a 2 outer, Against 2 over's and a flush draw you're 50%, against pocket 2's you're a 2 outer, against a higher pocket pair you're a 2 outer.

So there's 4 most likely scenarios, 3/4x you're dead to a 2 outer, and 1/4x you're flipping .. This is not a very profitable scenario to be in. Your best option here is to fold and move on to another hand.

I think calling is the worst option of all. If you want to continue the hand you need to decide at the flop whether you're willing to raise and pot commit yourself tomove in with the hand, or just fold, the best option of all. Just calling the flop allows the times you're opponent does have 2 overs and a flush draw, or possibly check raised with air the chance to peek at another very likely overcard to you're pair of 5's, so flat calling the flop is just the worst Option of all.

Fold the hand, wait for a better spot.

 
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