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Tiltware Issues Statement on Phil Ivey

Companys Blasts Poker Pro, Claiming He Owes Money

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Phil IveyLess than 24 hours after eight-time World Series of Poker bracelet winner Phil Ivey publicly criticized Full Tilt Poker and filed a lawsuit claiming $150 million in damages, Tiltware, the company that provides software and marketing for the online poker site, issued the following statement:

Contrary to his sanctimonious public statements, Phil Ivey’s meritless lawsuit is about helping just one player – himself. In an effort to further enrich himself at the expense of others, Mr. Ivey appears to have timed his lawsuit to thwart pending deals with several parties that would put money back in players’ pockets. In fact, Mr. Ivey has been invited — and has declined — to take actions that could assist the company in these efforts, including paying back a large sum of money he owes the site. Tiltware doubts Mr. Ivey’s frivolous and self-serving lawsuit will ever get to court. But if it does, the company looks forward to presenting facts demonstrating that Mr. Ivey is putting his own narrow financial interests ahead of the players he professes to help.

Ivey, regarded by many as the best player to ever live, won nearly $20 million at the virtual felt on Full Tilt Poker –- tops all-time in the digital game.

Stay tuned to Card Player for more information regarding the Ivey-Tiltware case.

 
 
 
 

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notCIA
over 3 years ago

If FTP kept player's money separate, it should have no problem paying players. Obviously FTP does have a problem, so it did not keep the money separate. Any business dealings with Phil Ivey should have no bearing on FTP's ability to pay players. I find FTP appears less than honest once again.

 
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Ariuszme
over 3 years ago

this is all getting too juicy but I love reading about it. I accidentally came across a site the other night, around 3am quadjacks.com/radio and was listening in to some guy named Nick spill his guts not only about his own cheating on FT, but how they didn't pay him monies owed (rightfully so imo) but he spilled a lot of other dirt. Like for instance how David Benyamine was illegally given over $5 million of other people's money on that site by an employee, unbeknownst to owners, and David lost it all and has no way to pay it back. I believe it because I always found David to be a bit of a sewer rat in the poker world.

other details that I've heard/read about this issue is that the DOJ has frozen one bank acct (of 2? of many?) that belong to FT and this is another reason they haven't paid out. Other details that DOJ has frozen the accts of 2 FT superstars and this (many think) is an indication that those 2 will be indicted, some speculate one of those people is Ivey.. and they think (maybe) that's why he filed the suit.. to try and help cover his own azz.

I dunno, I've always found online poker rather sleazy and hurts the integrity of poker in a live game, that I've played for almost 20 yrs. I don't like what online poker has brought to the industry.. it's just plain dirty. How ever this all comes out , sobeit, but it's entertaining in the process to follow the dirty details that come out.

 
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lowstakesgrinder
over 3 years ago

I agree with ariuzisme. I think ivey is trying to distance himself from full tilt only because he is most likely one of the players that is going to be indicted. I think in the coming months the poker community is going to find out just how sleazy not only the site, but also many of the ftp superstars were in the last few years. I always found it hard to believe that players like gus hansen, david benyamine, and others could be online losers to the tune of 5-10 million in the last few years yet still miraculously had funds to play in the big games.

 
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takedown
over 3 years ago

I've never had a problem getting my money out of any of these sites. It is only after Obamas DOJ stepped in did I have this problem. I hear and see alot of bitching and whining but seeing and hearing little action,even from the PPA.

I have started a petition on SignOn.org to President Obama to put an end to this bullshit once and for all by executive order.He needs to hear the voice of the 1.2 million of us who play online poker and know that he just might need us in his re-election bid.
The link is below.

http://signon.org/sign/president-obama-stop?source=c.fwd.in&r_by=161170

 
 

Arturo_Fuente
over 3 years ago

Clear and simple. Ivey is a rat trying to escape sinking ship. How can't you see that. Just recall how aggressively FTP promouted itself lately, before Black Friday. And Ivey was their No.1 guy. It's a shame ordinary US players can't get their money back. But he did not hire legal team at his expence to fight accounts freeze. Instead, he filed a lawsuit seeking $150M, which will make repayment process even harder. What a travesty. Look what Greg Raymer is doing. He is fighting. Ivey only cares about himself. And he is not playing at WSOP cuz he is affraid he might be arrested.

 
 

1Acehigh
3 years ago

WRONGGGGG, WRONGGGGGGG, and DID I SAY WRONGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG...

 
 

xIcemanxx
over 3 years ago

arrested...lol FTP was always a scam. Ps paid because they did their business according to Isle of Man gaming LAW! Ivy is smart, he knows they are cheats and wants to get THE F OUT!

 
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inevermiss
over 3 years ago

By blaming Phil Ivey in this release, Tiltware is helping support Ivey's point. They can't pay the players. And it won't be long before the players themselves are the ones suing Tiltware. Shame on them for further tarnishing their reputation with this release. They are going to have a hard time keeping American players on their site after this blaming release about one of poker's finest. This does nothing but make them look even worse. They should work to repair the relationship with the players instead of going toe to toe with Ivey. They should know from the UB scandal that keeping information from players only makes things worse. They should release information as to why they can't pay players and then pay the players what ever percentage of their accounts they can afford. Even if it was 10%, it would at least show some effort to take care of their customers and start to repair that relationship.

 
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inevermiss
over 3 years ago

This release accomplishes very little except making Tiltware look even worse, and making Ivey look right. Tiltware can't pay players, and somehow that's Phil Ivey's fault? Shame on your lawyers Tiltware, they are making you look bad. Pay the players at least partially before they all swear you off for the future. Was nothing learned from UB on how to treat players?

 
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lctom
over 3 years ago

wheres Howard lederer in this i bet he got his money back surprised he was not arrested too he started fulltilt with ferguson players should take it up with him im sure hes made millions from his site pay up howard

 
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KingaDimuns
over 3 years ago

I like the part where they say that if it gets to court that, "the company looks forward to presenting facts demonstrating that Mr. Ivey is putting his own narrow financial interests ahead of the players he professes to help." LOL As if looking out for yourself financially is illegal.

 
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Arturo_Fuente
over 3 years ago

No, looking out for yourself is NOT illegal. But doing that when hundreds of thousands of other players can't get their money back in not moral either. Ivey ONLY cares for himself and trying to escape sinking ship. How can't you understand that FTP wants to be back on US market and by NOT repaying back US clients damages itself big time. They simply CAN'T, they don't have resources. It's so obvious. I am sure they will pay back eventually. And instead of trying to help FTP in any way possible Ivey is trying to squeeze $$ from them. Yes, he promoted FTP but don't forget - big part of his celebrity status was created by FTP. Don't you know how TV promotion works? FTP paid huge $$ for their commercials and ESPN and other channels televised poker tourneys and high stakes concentrating on Ivey. TV brainwashed you, created a hero for you and now toy are worshipping a scumbag.

 
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1Acehigh
3 years ago

LOL, YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THE FCK YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. JUST BLA BLA BLA BS. ENOUGH SAID, NOT WASTING ANYMORE OF MY TIME ON YOU...

 
 

KingaDimuns
over 3 years ago

i never said i worship the guy. and yes i understand how advertising works. yes i understand that the whole thing is shady and immoral, but not illegal. my only point is like, is that the best they got? personally i think that over the next few months or year or whatever, we're gonna start to hear a lot about Ivey and FTP that will make both of them look shady and sleazy. i think iveys rep will suffer for sure

 
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Arturo_Fuente
over 3 years ago

Hi Kinga. Can't agree with you more. But again - by not paying US players FTP damages its reputation. Trust me they want to be back. And trust me you will hear from them as soon as Federal Government will pass new law on online poker/gambling. They simply will cooperate with LV and will work under LV control. Which may be even better for us so we will know our money is safe and the card dealing is fair. By the way, FTP did not pay me back either and I wish them the best, so I can get my money sooner rather than later. Good luck to you at the tables.

 
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Fever
3 years ago

Does everyone remember Ocean's Eleven? The casino must have in cash the dollar value amount of every chip on the casino floor. Now I do not know if this law/regulation is still in place today but it makes sense to me that it would be. These poker sites were not banks and should not have been allowed to touch the players money in any way. They make money on the rake and the tournament fees as it is. The argument that they should be allowed to keep going and comparing them to a bank is ludicrous. Banks are heavily regulated and your money is insured. If the poker sites kept this same attitude and made sure they had the money for every dollar in the players accounts then they would not be in the trouble they are in now.

 
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