Blog where I curse alot....don't read if you can't handle a few F bombsby Jason Young | Published: Jul 25, '10 |
told you guys I’m going to tell you how it is, for better or worse always…WELL RIGHT NOW IM FUCKING STEAMING so bad. I’m not going to be one of these fake F*CKS On here who always has everything work out for them….I have always been a live player…never really played much online…I’ve really put in a lot more hours online trying to improve my game over the past year or so..and I have improved a great deal. I recently had my biggest online cash for 51K and went on a nice run playing super high stakes sit n go’s.
I’ve been playing heavy volume for me anyways in 500-1k HU’s and 6max sit n go’s. I never really have the patience when I’m home to be able to devote the entire day or weekend or whatever to playing online. When I go away I love playing, and when I come home, I like doing everything BUT play poker most of the time. So sit n go’s are the answer because I can get in and out if I feel like playing for a bit, and try and make some money. While in Vegas I won 20 straight 1k sit n go’s at one point, and was feeling like I was about to break through into a new uncharted territory with my live and online success over the summer…WELL FUCK YOU TP, you fcking pieces of sht.
I’ve always felt like whenever I cash out any money, I’m going to get insta-fcked as soon as I do that, and it always happens, but I just chalk it up to me playing bad or whatever…In the last 2 days I’ve felt like Tim Robbins entering Shawshank. I mean they are trying to jam it in me around every corner. The biggest joke ever….I’m deleting the word (FUCK) as often as I can, but I’m literally steaming while I right this…Broken computer and all…I’ve been playing 500-1k heads up holdem, o8 and Omaha Hi the past 2 days I have lost to 2 outters no less than 50 times. Im not kidding….I’ve had a swing in 2 days where I went from being up close to 30k since my last night in Vegas and maintaining while being home for 10 days, to down 5K. -35K in 2 days?! GO FCK YOURSELVES.
I’m looking at the hand histories…because sometimes, I definitely play bad, and deserve to lose…but there is a theme here that cannot be questioned…getting it in with AK or AQ vs Ax and they hit x…every time…getting it in with top 2 against bottom 2, and they hit there bottom pair again?!?! it happened 9 times in the past 2 days…i just checked…Pair over pair forget it…now I have chalked up losing sessions and all that to variance in the past, but someone needs to explain to me how this is even possible. I really believe there are “hot” IP addresses and maybe you will call me crazy, but if you do, I will look u dead in the face, and tell you to FCK OFF….I know a lot of live pro’s that run like dogsh*t online…HOW in the world can a guy who wins well into 6 figures playing live sit n go’s, have it be the complete opposite online. That is for Tommy…guy wins seats into every major tourny imaginable and cant win a cent online to save his life…the same can be said for so many other guys I know.
I played with all of the high stakes regs over the past couple weeks…and they are nothing special…they play great sure…but there are a lot of people that play great…these guys just run like fucking GOD all of the time it seems….I’m uninstalling every online poker site on my computer…Im not playing online for at least 1 month, and I’m not putting my horses into anything online for a month either…sorry guys. I hate everyone right now…everyone can go jump off a bridge for all I care. Try to find the next guy on here that tells you he lost 35k in 2 days, gl with that.
Going to apply for a job at wal-mart, that has to be better than playing online poker all day everyday,maybe I’ll get hit by a bus on the way there…if so, it’s been real. Haters rejoice!
Comments
showtime629
1 year ago
It is sick the bad beats/coolers that can accumulate in a short period of time, but you have to chalk it up to playing more hands in a faster period of time.
You were obviously doing the same things when you were winning, so stick with it, it is just a bad run of cards. It can be brutal, but dont let it affect your confidence.
common-terry
1 year ago
no it is rigged
may people win for a while, then always lose to bad players.
sites dont prove they arent rigged because they increase profit x20 = pure capitalism at work!
we stole all the land from the indians and gave them casinos so they can cheat the white man
BiggMike
1 year ago
This blog really made me laugh because it's the absolute truth. As soon as you cash out, the majority of people are going to get screwed, plain and simple. Between poker bots and lack of security on these sites, online poker just feels shady to me on many different levels. Stick to the live games Jason, its where your bread is buttered.
hitking1
1 year ago
Thank God I finally hear a "named" player say it. It is the absolute truth. It happens to me time after time after time. All i ever get is " Go back and look at the hand and see how you could have played it better"! Better ?!@!!!!!!! are you fking kidding me i get in in 70/30 and 80/20 and lose 85% of those!!!!!!!!!!!!! Bullchit. I agree with you 1000%%%%%%%%% Fk online poker Fk Howard Lederer, Ray Bitar, and PS, you cant tell me that if Russ Hamilton did it that they are all not doing . Amen to "hot" ip addresses. God its so good that someone finally says it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
hitking1
1 year ago
Jason , What is TP?? Or do you mean FTP??
snaggs
1 year ago
lmao 20 sng wins in a row is skill but a cold streak is bad luck.
I_P_Freely
1 year ago
I sure hope someone at WalMart reads this in time so they don't hire this clown. What a loser.
thepokermonkey
1 year ago
I walked into Wal Mart yesterday, IN A CLOWN SUIT....bought a video collection of Barney and Friends, some duct tape, and some hand lotion...then walked into H.R. there and filled out an application for a job. They called today for a second interview. I really don't think JY has anything to fear.
JasonYoung
1 year ago
you guys are funny what u try to interpret out of what i write...snaggs, i never once said anything about 20 in a row being all skill...what i did however say, is how I lost over the past 2 days was complete bullsh*t...so i guess u can derive whatever u need to out of that to try and make me look like a deuch...gl
hitking--you can make an educated assumption out of what I may have meant...you seem like a smart guy...I didnt want to publicly blast any particular site on such a public forum
biggmike- cant wait to be at borgata for the live games in september!
showtime-thanks man i appreciate the kind words....
And...dammit, I walked into wal-mart and I_P_ Freely printed out my blog on one of his breaks from being a cashier and showed this to management...i didnt get the job...but I am a clown, so I heard the circus was hiring...keep rollin them prices back I_P you do a hell of a job!!! thanks for reading :)
lucksac915
1 year ago
Greetings Jason you are correct I have been battling these sites for over a year you could drop in my you tube channel magic612(Pokerstars Suckout Stepchild) or Google Magic612 ill show you the real scam of these sites hope to cya there!
bparmalee
1 year ago
Now that was a blog!!!! Jason can you please call Dusty Leatherass up and send him a transcript. I feel you on running bad but its refreshing to see an honest blog now and then. This is what blogs are for.... not bragging about some wine trip 2 months from now. Keep venting and I hope it turns around. I mean live poker is just more fun anyways.... I hate sitting online bsing.
Michael1000
1 year ago
While I don't fully understand everything that you meant to say because you delete or stop writing what you're about to say, I do agree with what you're saying. Top pros have a lot of lucks on there side and sure their skills are excellence, they can't win with out a lot of luck.
As for online poker, I really find it very very hard to believe that it's as "fair" of a game as live poker. While at a friend's house, I personally eye witnessed his roommate sharing and discussing hand info and strategies with another person on the phone while they were both on full tilt NLH 6 max table. I also heard of a couple of guys who make a living for a few years now playing "together" online.
Besides those little facts, how do we know for sure that it's fair and not full of cheaters? Ultimate Bet scam, and the Absolute Poker scam (where the owner used his administrative power to over see the cards and told a pro player who was in the same room as he was what hand their opponents have and they crushed their opponent for more than 700k) showed how they cheated. And how can we be sure that guys who owns those online poker site doesn't use their administrative power to see other players cards or even more? I'm now 100% sure and I'm not saying that Ivey cheated because i have no absolute evidence, but, have you seen some of the pots in PLO where Ivey crushed Isidur1? Ivey had the better hand on the flop or pre-flop and his hand wasn't even that good. How can we be sure that he didn't just "use" his "edge" and popped Isidur1 for a few millions? I know Ivey is a very good and lucky player, but it's still possible. He co own the site. If you think your opponent can data mining your hand histories and such, then think of how thorough those owners have over you when you play on their sites.
As for variance, luck don't break even, we don't all get the same amount of cards in the long run, and even if we we manage that, it wouldn't be under the same situation. For example, having pocket Aces hold up at a major tournament final is a lot more valuable than at a 10/20 cash game, etc.
I used to play online poker for 2 years and quit a few months back and I really don't think luck break even or even it's a variance thing. I had countless bad beats from 86% advantage on the flop to 98% on the river. The percentage just aren't even close to what the outcome should be. We can argue coin flips and such theory but after a few thousand times and if it's not anywhere close to 50-50 then we have issues there. For me, a lucky hand is a hand that hold up, that doesn't turn into a bad beat or cooler or whatever names they have for those.
imalittlefish
1 year ago
Absoulte best blog I've read in a LONG time on here! Way to speak the truth Jason. Online poker is an absolute fraud and they will all eventually be caught, it's just a matter of time. I better get back to multi tabling on FT and Stars.............
mikeyb111
1 year ago
Your line about the high stakes regs being nothing special says it all. There's nothing special about ANY poker player (yourself included) and when that truth is realized maybe people will stop idolizing these so-called poker geniuses.
jackson40m
1 year ago
I love Michael1000's comment concerning online poker:
"As for online poker, I really find it very very hard to believe that it's as "fair" of a game as live poker. While at a friend's house, I personally eye witnessed his roommate sharing and discussing hand info and strategies with another person on the phone while they were both on full tilt NLH 6 max table. I also heard of a couple of guys who make a living for a few years now playing "together" online."
You mean there might be collusion on online poker! I'm shocked, shocked I tell you to find this out.
Reminds me of the following quotes for that classic movie Casablanca:
after observing the gambling tables at Rick's]
Customer: Are you sure this place is honest?
Carl: Honest? As honest as the day is long!
Rick: How can you close me up? On what grounds?
Captain Renault: I'm shocked, shocked to find that gambling is going on in here!
[a croupier hands Renault a pile of money]
Croupier: Your winnings, sir.
Captain Renault: [sotto voce] Oh, thank you very much.
[aloud]
Captain Renault: Everybody out at once!
zerofan
1 year ago
Same here JY.
I was running deep in MTT's for awhile but ALWAYS losing and busting out to the WORST hand.
So sick of it! I have no luck in cards.....sure I suck out one out of 20 times, but why am I on the losing end of suckouts 19/20 times.....I will always question these poker sites but I keep playing on FTP and PS.
The worst hand online usually wins about 70% of the time, live this happens maybe 30%....did I make this up...yes! But to me it sounds about right.
dare2
1 year ago
Poker sites exist to create rake for the house.PERIOD. The computer programs are skewed to maximize site profits. If all the "Donks" were forced to play with the actual odds they'd go broke in no time and the websites would vanish. So they "adjust" the computer odds to a higher suck out ratio which insures the bad players continue to play thereby creating more rake. In the same way the 2 dollar bettor is the backbone of horse racing the "Donk" is the backbone of online poker.Because he played mostly live poker it took Jason Young a little longer to realize what many of us have long known. All the online poker sites cheat but sadly there's nobody there to catch them.
Livinxl
1 year ago
AMEN!!!! I just cashed some money out of FTP and guess what??? I lost all my tounaments with a boat over boat, set over set or 2-3 outed on the river...........Its the same in the cash games DONT PLAY em u win some then all of a sudden u get what i call a set up hand....they set u up with a big hand that you cant lay down and BOOM.... RUNNER RUNNER FLUSH STRAIGHT OR BOAT!!!!
F U FULL TILT U SCAMMERS!!!!!
Howard is a fat lump of poop i hope he burns in hell!
EVERYONE SPREAD THE WORD THAT WE KNOW THERE SCAMMERS IF EVERYONE BOYCOTTS THEM FOR A COUPLE WEEKS THEY WILL FEEL IT!!!!!
Livinxl
1 year ago
Showtime629 comment makes him sound like he works for a online poker room! MORON!
Livinxl
1 year ago
Also when you think about all the good live pros out there only a small hand full that ARENT sponsered play online...hmmmmmmmm wonder why? Sh*t half the sponsered fulltilt pros dont even play online anymore.......ITS FIXED!!! ITS A COMPUTER PROGRAM DESIGNED BY A HUMAN THAT MEANS HUMANS CAN RIG IT!!! (my wife ALWAYS says "i dont trust it its a computer program " and she works with computers but my dumb *ss keeps playin lol)PLAY SMALL FOR FUN LETS STOP MAKING THESE *SSH*LES RICH!!! I now play small tournaments thats it its funny how you always get the bad beats when ur deep in the money and when you suck out its in the begining when it dont matter....BASTURDS! yes i said TURDS!
Aguskb
1 year ago
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Chris Stoltzfus
1 year ago
Jason, two words of advice for you, Tommy Angelo.
jaredtendler
1 year ago
From a mental side of things I wanted a make a quick comment I thought might help.
You're clearly a solid player, but no one has an edge that's 20 SNG's in a row better against high stakes regs. If variance was neutral the whole time that could make sense. It seems more likely that you got ahead of yourself, and then had the carpet yanked out from underneath you. Basically the good run and believing it was the verge of even more, set you up for getting destroyed mentally when the inevitable bad run hit.
The reason that happens is that poker is great at making you (and 1000's of other players) believing that you have more control of the game than you actually do. A great run like that meets the dreams/images you have of how good of a player you can be, but it's built in part on a lie. Variance is that lie and it can lead you to misrepresent (either positively on a good run, or negatively on a bad) your actual skill. When you believe the variance part is your skill, expect it to be pissed off when poker takes it back.
That same pattern (thinking you control more) happened in the past on the negative side of variance too. Evident when you said 'but I just chalk it up to me playing bad' It's likely you're still playing pretty solid, some mistakes sure, but the cards have inevitably turned. Though it seems like it's all you when it's not.
As for looking at hand histories, did you do a similar kind of analysis during the winning streak, tracking how often your hands held up? Focusing much more on the negative can make it seem like your getting fucked more than you deserve, when your perspective instead is totally thrown off because the negative get's proportionally far more attention.
Hope this helps man. Wish you well.
thepokermonkey
1 year ago
This sounds like every email I get from customer service after I fire off a profanity laced rant on the heels of two or three days of getting f**ked every way imaginable. Hmmmmmmm.....
hitking1
1 year ago
And you work for what site Jaredtendler?????
showtime629
1 year ago
Showtime629 comment makes him sound like he works for a online poker room! MORON!
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I think you meant to say "Showtime29's" comment makes him sound like a winning player without a tin foil hat on. If you spend time working on your game and have proper bankroll management, even you Livinxl can be a winner...well maybe.
Tommy Angelo's Elements of Poker is worth its weight in gold to those who want to play for a living. Jared Tendler is a mental coach who works with some poker players...I think he also works with golfers as well.
Both of those guys focus on very good players who are lacking certain points of their game to get over the hump, whether it be the mental side or things like game selection.
ps0054
1 year ago
Well, Jason, welcome to the world most of us inhabit. Throw in getting cold decked and I run like that 4-5 out of every 7 days on average -- and have been for years and years. In fact, its all I know.
JorzHounam
1 year ago
I've been there Jason so like Jared (who linked me here) I feel like I'd like to help you right now if I can.
I got my *ss handed to me losing a couple of 1 outers (top set vs river quads) within 20 hours of each other a couple of months back. This started what I can only describe as the most sickening of down swings I've ever faced (20 buy ins)
Yeah people can run bad and I really was, but 20 buy in's or -35k just isn't variance on its own. I knew I was playing bad and by the sounds of things you know you are too. Do you know just how bad though?
I'm not trying to take away from your sick beats, but down swings blind people to the reality of their play and exaggerate the loss. Think less about running bad and more about things that downers can screw with like;
- getting away from hands as early as possible when you know deep down you're beat.
- value betting an amount that's likely to get called, instead of big betting in an attempt to win back more money faster.
- exercising pot control with semi strong hands on worrying boards.
In short you need to stop rushing, but that's hard to do when you probably believe you're taking things slower than ever. Taking a month out of poker is a bad idea in my opinion too. There's nothing worse than taking a month off, coming back, looking at your bankroll and continuing a bad run. It's just not cool. Get back in the game, remove the past from your mind as best you can. Try and find satisfaction from small wins and positives, even though your bankroll's still much lower than you'd like.
Results will come, they always do!
tahoedog24
1 year ago
Just be glad you ran good enough to win 20 SNGs in a row, because that must have took a tremendous amount of luck to accomplish. Not taking away from your abilities, but it doesn't matter who you are, you have to run like god to win 20 SnGs in a row - especially at the WSOP with other good players around. I find it very hard to believe that happened, but if you did it, congrats. As Barry Greenstein (I think) said one time, you could play this game with the cards face up and not even be guaranteed to win.
Players often forget to attribute good luck to their game when they're winning. I mean, you gotta get lucky to even get decent playable hands in the first place, you can only make so many moves with garbage. I played one SnG where I never once had a hand better that A-9. Meanwhile, I've seen other players get AK, AQ, KK, AA, JJ, QQ and other top hands over and over and over. It's a mathematic anomaly, but it happens all the time. To win, you gotta get lucky, simple as that. I think you're more upset now because you know you are a skilled player, yet this aspect is beyond your control, as it is for all of us. Welcome to the world a lot of us live in. I have never had one of these streaks that I've seen some other players happen, just doesn't happen to me... If I have the best hand, I often get cracked. If I have the worst hand, it just stays that way. Usually.
Sounds like the extreme good luck you've encountered is being offset by some extreme bad luck. The scales are balancing out, that's all.
WPS22
1 year ago
I don't know why you say "hater's rejoice" at the end. The haters don't hate you anymore, you are their new king. Every single angry loser who posts negative stuff here thinks exactly the same thing as you do about this.
Sam Rothstein
1 year ago
People always argue that online poker has no reason to cheat, they already make so much...as if this is going to go on forever. If online poker is legalized in the U.S., the companies that currently operate in the U.S. will be banned, because they chose to violate UIGEA and U.S. Law. So there is your rebuttal to that argument, these poker sites days are limited. If poker is legalized, they are doomed for violating U.S. law the entire time, they won't be rewarded for being lawbreakers. Sites like Party Poker who followed the rules will be let back in. If poker is not legalized, the whenever UIGEA finally gets to the enforcement phase of this law, they will be banned anyhow. The way I see it, Joker Stars and Full Tilt's days are numbered and they are fleecing the system for every last dime while they still can. I will visit Howard in jail and Annie and Phil !!!!! YES YES YES
thepokermonkey
1 year ago
Is this the guy from the movie "Casino???"
JasonYoung
1 year ago
There are quite a few comments here...So let me summarize a bit by saying....I never once stated that I was "anything special" I'm a pro because it is what I do for a living, and I happen to make some money...beyond that I dont believe you will ever find anything where I claim to be above and beyond anyone else....
For the guy who told me to go kill myself...I thank you, my friends thank you and my family thanks you...in the note i'll write that the last straw was some random from cardplayer comments telling me to go kill myself, it really sent me over the edge...
I'm going to try and make this clear for some of you guys to understand...because I fear this may be taken the wrong way...when i won 20 in a row...it was obviously ridiculous, i was playing good and running great...every hand was holding, every draw was hitting etc...I was also playing in a place I had never played before...MY PROBLEM was the way I just lost it all back when I got home...there is a lot of math involved in this game we play...so if something happens ( lose to a 2 outter) yah it obv sucks...when it happens again, you start to think you are running bad..when it happens non-stop for 2 days...you begin to wonder what the odds of that happening are.
I do enjoy the dialog where everyone is voicing their thoughts and opinions though...keep it coming, it helps to see that I'm not the only one it happens to...I do agree with alot of the stuff you guys have said. I know that there are highly paid very intelligent computer programmers working for these sites that could basically write a program to do whatever they wanted...But I won't get to much into that now...and I do believe the gravy train will come to an end sooner or later and at least have to deal with some regulation, so yes people will be looking to make every last buck they can, while they still can.
VoiceOfReason
1 year ago
Suddenly I feel a bit better about my own pathetic game, it's not just me who is screwed by the 2/3 outers.
It's got to the stage where when I get dealt KK my very first reaction is "oh fuck no", because you know you've got to play them BUT we all know what's going to happen when you get action .....
Can online computer software really shuffle a deck of cards as well, or as unbiased as human hands? I mean really? How do we know? How can we know? Is that so-called certificate from some auditor realling enough to put our mind at ease? Hmmmmmmm ......
Jesus I'm turning into Mulder ...... ;)
L2K4FC
1 year ago
"It's got to the stage where when I get dealt KK my very first reaction is "oh f**k no".." Pretty much sums it up for me. I mean there is tight play and then there is being burned so many times that you are actually afraid to get it in with anything other than the stone cold nuts. For me the killer is when it the most ridiculous things happen in super big spots. Case in point- I'm 2nd chipleader with 20 left of 1000+ in Full Tilt's 15k KO tourney. I was in the BB with AA sitting on somewhere around 110k. 3rd chipleader who had about 95k was on the button. I had been playing pretty conservatively just looking for a spot like this. He 3 bet my blind, I re-raised huge but not all in, i think to about a total of 65-70K which is obv committed. He shoves the rest in like a FISH with A9. How can I fold and what am i raising with that can't beat A9 Lol?? He flops 4 to a flush,bombs the turn and nails the river. AA vs A9 for 100k stacks with 20 left and they give it to him, just sick. I bust a few hands later for 100 bucks instead of 5G which was 1st. One thing is for sure, if the sites are rigged up in any way, I'm going to make a helluva lot more money once I go Live. Peace all.
acejack44
1 year ago
Well Jason here are a few things,
If you are going to be playing HUSNGs especially at the highest limits you have to expect huge swings like this. The best players at those limits beat the game for less than 5% ROI its something that they grind at. Also, everyone that plays those games knows that there are huge swings involved. Just go look at someone like PrimordialAA who lost 50k over about 2k games then won 100k over around 1k-1.5k games.
2nd off why would any poker site make you lose when you are playing a sng they get the money when you start the game not from the other person winning and you losing or vice versa.
Also, higher stakes sngs online are going to be tougher than normal sngs in a casino. The high stakes online players understand ICM plays much better than normal live pros? Why you might ask, because they have too or they wouldn't be there. They know it like the back of their hand because that is what seperates them from the lower stakes sng players and it is how they moved up the stakes.
I hope you turn it around because I do respect you as a player and usually your blogs too.
calijohn
1 year ago
I play pretty much HORSE and Stud hi lo so action is left around $16 sng and lower. I am always afraid if there was much action higher than that, I am running into cheating. I looked into FT to expand my game to be able to MT more and googled it when the extra possible matches that I was looking for showed up. One was ....rigged. So, I clicked on to see what the hell was that about. Seems I heard a lot of comments but nobody of substance until you posted this. Seems I should play at FT at the beginning to see if I win as many say will happen for the first few weeks. I love live tournaments too but playing in your PJs (as I am doing now) is so easy than to drive to LA to play. Good Luck to your future and hope it is just a sick run. I recovered from having 4 wins out of 14 when starting Stud Hi/Lo rolled up. How you can lose that many is beyond me but it straightened out on PS and now I am top 10. Now if I can only stay out of the online $3/$6 tables....
bmpek
1 year ago
call danny boy. he will get you set up on stars. oh he is a loser to. better see dusty
dare2
1 year ago
In addition to the web site programmer "adjusting" computer odds to keep the Donks playing longer, creating more rake(and more money for the site), here's the real reason poker sites punish you for withdrawing funds. Much like major banks they are using YOUR money deposited in the poker accounts for speculative ventures (like the stock market) to create more money for themselves. Which means if everyone asked for their money back at the same time they wouldn't have it in liquidity. The frightening thing is that with the state of the economy they might not even have a fraction of what it would take to pay everyone. Which would make the run of bad luck after someone DOES withdraw more of a deterrent punishment than a variance.
bartchalker
1 year ago
You're not cut out for high stakes SNG's obv. Cry baby.
Livinxl
1 year ago
Hate 2 say it but dare2 is probably right........AGAIN just play small tournaments and sats into the bigger mtts......AVOID cash cames online, play cash live instead.... my live cash results make me wonder why i even play online besides the factor of playing at home in my underwear! :0)
jackson40m
1 year ago
Jason,
So called "Pro" players would never go on tilt like this. I think it's time you re-evaluated and maybe get a 9-5 job, and just use poker as a fun profitabale little hobby.
iambobby
1 year ago
Internet poker and live poker are two different games.
A friend of mine compiled about 100,000 hands and is convinced using statistics that the internet software helps the hand that is behind. After studying the information, the only real value you have in a hand is from fold equity. By making large take down bets, you have a chance to win the hand by your opponent folding, and if called, you have a better chance to suck out. Players who dont know this, but who play a crazy aggressive style have been rewarded for their bad play.
Using these concepts we developed a strategy to win with the new rules. Think of it as a game with 55 cards, or whatever you need to understand the rules have changed. While we were able to beat the game, it was no where near as profitable as playing the real game, live poker.
I play micro stakes on the internet for fun. If you disagree with what I said, look me up in Tunica this week, and I will be playing the highest limit cash games in the room, and love to play HU.
JasonYoung
1 year ago
I would like to announce that Jackson40m has made me reevaluate my entire life...with his words of wisdom I now realize I cannot handle the stresses of the pokers and will be looking for a job immediately...thank you all for reading, its been a great ride!
bmpek
1 year ago
looking for apple pickers in washington. they are bringing a bunch of jamicans in as you busted white poker players are to proud to take a real job
iambobby
1 year ago
Bumboclot. Feel no way mon.
merc130
1 year ago
As Jason stated the bad beats came after the cashout, for those of you who have never cashed out, the bad swings always come when you take money out. I have been noticing this trend for years, and have always waited to build my bankroll up b4 i take any out in order to avoid going broke.
jackson40m
1 year ago
merc130, et al:
Why not get a real job and just let your money accumulate in FT and/or PS and use it as your own personal 401K account and never cash out until you're 60 years old and ready to retire? There, problem solved! The only risk would be if FT or PS collapses and you lose all your money that way; but seriously, could that ever happen?
Livinxl
1 year ago
I never leave more then a grand or two im my accounts ur a fool if you think your moneys safe...hell half the banks in the usa arent even safe look how many folded in the last year!!!
Bottom line and rule number 1,dont gamble what you cant afford to lose and you will never go broke!
fabo747
1 year ago
Not even hating and I doubt your broke, but you deffinitely should not be playing 500-1k sitngos if your worried about a 35k downswing in two days!! You even admit you dont like to grind you got lucky and hit 20 in a row doesnt mean shit! you should deff lower your buy in range or be ready for the swings!!!!!!!!!!!1
grog911
1 year ago
i wish i ran good enough to build a decent bankroll. Hey Jason got a little story for you, i was playing in some satellites in the 2007 borgata open. I only had 3 k to my name and was traveling back and forth to A.C. to virginia beach. I am at this single table satellite and we get down to 3 handed and first is 5k and I am chipleader. Out of now where Steve daneman comes over and starts talking to one of the guys at the table. They are ordering drinks and trying to do side bets of if a 9 5 or 2 will come on the flop. Well the guy that Daneman is talking to is Will the Thrill Failla. I limp with KK in sb to Will in Big Blind, he shoves with 5 7 off. makes to pair on river. I loose a flip 2 hands later and i am out. If i bust Will my whole pker career might change, but who knows. After that trip I figured out what i wanna do with my life and met my girlfriend. It was a bad beat sure, does Will owe me some backing in some tourney's (hell yes he does). Tell Will I will collect on my debts for A.C. for Wsop circuit in December. Point is best bad beat of my life. Greg davis Itdontmatter911@aol.com
JasonYoung
1 year ago
I will bet you your life roll that will the thrill was NOT ordering shots...congrats on meeting the woman though.
Richenough
1 year ago
Wow !! JAson after 12 hours of ranting... i hope you are much calmer now... Go smoke some weed or sip on some patron!! GET F*cked up and stick ur d*ck in some wet punnani !!! RELIEVE all that stress bangin out some trim... you will feel better!
LOL!! dont play poker for a while and refocus on making good hands in your mind- stop replaying the bad stuff.
jackson40m
1 year ago
I agree with Richenough and fabo747, but I think Jason has demonstrated that he's a little too immature and delusional to take your advise at this stage of his poker "career".
Sam Rothstein
1 year ago
RIGGED
texasroadgambler
1 year ago
I wonder what would happen if the feds investigated the internet poker sites for violations of the RICO act?
mikeyb111
1 year ago
what difference would that make since they are not subject to U.S. law
texasroadgambler
1 year ago
Any activity carried out in the U.S. and participated in by U.S. citizens is subject to U.S. law, both civil and criminal.
Perhaps you haven't read of the drug dealers from foreign countries being arrested and extradited to the U.S. for violating U.S.law even though they live elsewhere?
WPS22
1 year ago
I wonder is somewhere, in some alternate universe, there is two dozen poker players on a forum talking about how much luckier they are than the average player. Ive yet to encounter a single poker player in my entire life who is luckier than the average player. Every single one is unlucky.
Could it possibly be that the nature of poker (especially holdem) makes everyone think they are unlucky? Nah, can't be that. It's much more logical to think we are all just so unlucky.
I remember seeing Joe Hachem on TV at the ME the year following his win. He was begging the dealer to please for once hold his Kings up. The guy was literally acting like he'd never seen a hand hold up before and he won the fking main event 12 months before that.
thepokermonkey
1 year ago
Dear Punk.
You have a bad attitude.
You know what's rigged?
XboxLive and PS3 Network. Thats what.
There is no way those 'secret weapons' that I have no access to actually exist.
I'm tired of being killed by 7 year olds.
drinking problem?
The only problem is when I open up my finest bottle of pinot noir upon finding out that Jim Pedulla has been fired and escorted off of Ceasers Palace property by security, only to find that the f**king thing is 'corked' now THAT is a drinking problem.
2-outers? I would love to get 2 outed once in awhile.
Its those 17 outers I am sick of.
You know what I mean? The ones where the guy calls you with BOTTOM F**KING PAIR after you've raised preflop...then MISS that open-ended straight flush draw about 60 f**king times.
Hey Punk...you know I'm on to you right?
Those contrived text messages you send and the Facebook status updates you leave where you claim to be shitfaced and then mispell all the words? Dude, you and I both know that phones auto-correct the words now, as do the computers.
I know I know...you're trying to EMPHASIZE the point that you have drank so much 'bodka' that you are now 'ibisible' to all the world.
I get it I get it.
Just want you to know that I'm on to you.
Okay f**ker...I'm off to play, and not cash, in about 22 SNGS/MTTS on that moneystealing site....POKERF**KERS.
See ya soon.
I still owe you money.
Love,
Monkey
billbax22
1 year ago
Jason,
If you have a few minutes, id like to give you my analysis of you. You need to grow up. You have the worst sportmanship at the table. You think you are tough but you really arent. You are also one the cheapest people on he planet. Your a luckbox too.
Bill B.
I_P_Freely
1 year ago
It's funny because it's true. Billbax tellin' it like it is!
INFOWATCHDOG
1 year ago
Jason you have every RIGHT to RANT ,besides the Haters can't prove a negative and are the only ones that haven't done ANY reading on RIGGED POKER and I've done a lot .
A. Eli Elezra poker pro admitted on TV Game , he has 17 names on Full Tilt, thought that was against "rules" .
B. Greenstein from Full Tilt said Russ Hamilton (caught cheating at UB reading hole cards and worked there) was innocent , WHAT the FK, "innocent" .
C. "Fulltilt poker is not Random " is an alleged FT former programmer who says ALL, ALL internet poker is rigged . His Blog "Fulltilt poker is not Random " (enter name on blogger or search engine to find ) SAYS many interesting things ..
1. FT has house players paid to play and they change names frequently .
2. Says after breaks program kicks in to get rid of Short Stack during tourney , we've all seen that , Short stack w/ monster hand gets raped w/ weaker hand from Big Stack.
3. says new players win at beginning , win and win and then program is fixed to take chips .
4. Multiple good hands are set up for ACTION , to speed up game , to generate Action and to get players out to sign up for another ..... look at his blog , says lot more .
Ive seen all that and more , telling ME it's RIGGED , beyond a shadow of a doubt .
flickmynutz
1 year ago
hi jason, i agree with you 100%, ive been playing online poker now for 8 years and boy have i got some stories to tell, but if i did then im going to need the rest of the space on the world wide web, because i could fill the place up with them.
i forgot how many mouses ive purchased due to the others getting treated like a grenade in my kitchen and you wanna c the holes in my bathroom door.
but i think ive come up with a good solution to all this bullshit you see online, why doesnt such as ftp change the site completly and have a live dealer on there site that every player can see on the network and let the rng deal you just the 2 cards.
this would make it virtually impossible for any cheating.
this can happen as ftp have taken enough and made enough from all of us.
gl with the rest of your poker career.
lostsmoke
10 months ago
Online poker is absolutely rigged without a doubt in my mind. I practiced and studied poker for 8 years and did well for a good while, but after these last 2 months I simply cannot play anymore. I get utterly fvcked with dominating odds far too often, time for me to get a real job. Online poker is a joke ( I've played on both Pokerstars and the Merge Gaming Network, I'm leaving the game with an overall small profit but not nearly enough for all the time I've wasted )
And I know there are thousands of other intelligent good poker players who simply get fvcked over online and this is probably why you rarely see the famous poker pro's EVER sitting in an online poker room.
thecrow
8 months ago
I have my suspicions about online poker being rigged too. I seem to get beat by donk callers far too often. I've been looking for evidence everywhere and there very little in the way of hard evidence out there either way.
Then I came across this site - it runs statistical analysis of hand histories to see if specific rooms are rigged or not. It seems like early days yet - just PokerStars SnGs tested (1 million hands) - but hopefully they will test more sites soon...
[URL="http://onlinepokerwatchdog.com"]Tests for online poker being rigged[/URL]
Tressmania
7 months ago
I have been playing online since 2007. I started with "Fun-money" on PKR until I felt I had learned the game good enough to play for real money. I only played the micro´s until one day in September 08 I decided to play in at that time one of the premiere tourneys. OMG.. I ran like a GOD! And won in a field of 800+ players. My first place prize was 4700$. Wow I thought.. I am not even that good yet.. I can actually make a living doing this.. I cashed out 4000$, and left the 700$ on the site to play with. I wish I knew about hand history software back then.. Because the card dead runs, and incredible bad beat stats that followed after I cashed out would have been proof of rigging. Obviously I have never had any success after That win and cash-out.
If you want to check me out at PKR.com My nick there is "Tressy31"
Went on to Pokerstars and Full Tilt...
I have played almost exclusively tournaments at the low levels. at Pokerstars and Full Tilt as "Tressmania" You know those tournaments where you have 10 or so people having 10X the starting stack after 10 min of play.. Not exactly bankroll management... I know. The sickest tourney I played in was a 2$ buy in with above 10 000 players. I finished in 30th place and won 39$... lol. I always go out on a sick bad beat. And If I am off on a good start in a tourney, I 99% of the time will go card - dead for an hour or so.. Followed by a bad beat. Most likely from the maniac at the table.
I think because I don´t play ring games, the site do make money of my rake; and they do not allow me to win.. Maybe..
An other prof of rigging is my stats at Titan. I put some money into that site for the first time early this year. I 10-doubled my bankroll in the first 14 days. only playing tourneys. Finally I thought. A fair site.. But then I lost it all again, playing the same tournaments + some bigger ones.
Just search my stats at http://pokerprolabs.com/Tressy316/iPoker
Se the difference from Feb - March and June? Quite a fall of my tourney skills/luck?
"Well... When I got there I was an unknown to the other players there, and harder to play against"... OK.. But that does not explain the sudden difference in bad beats, not hitting any flop vs hitting almost every flop i played.
My playing style has not changed in the last 2 years; I am a tight - Aggressive player. i.e a player with a lot of patience .
Well my patience has ran out. I just wish I will get the chance to play in a large live televised tournament one day. If I where to win one... I would tell the whole world that I am the prof that online poker is 100% Rigged! I would not care if they sue me, or try to give me a super account or something to pay me off.
That is one of my biggest dreams. To be able to stand there as the winner of a big one, and have the opportunity to say the line: "Thaaats right!! A "Rigtard" just won the main event!" And tell what ever site that suddenly allowed me to win the seat to that tournament:
"You evil online poker mafia heads can take this bonus, this super-account offer and shove it up your asses!"
I really hope more some of the insiders spill the beans soon, and that more "Pro´s" stands up and does the right thing.
Online Poker should be legalized, and strictly controlled.
FFTZBW
12 days ago
I been posting like crazy about it being rigged, wish more players would come out like this dude.
It's risky to say it publicly, so I gotta give you props. Me I'm a nobody--funny how when a "nobody" talks about this all the internet tough guys pound on you.
It's more about the principle. What happened to decent honesty???
Poker sites are like the Vegas of the mob days. The analogy seems right, when you compare Vegas of yesteryear to the Vegas of today, just like Robert Deniro says in Casino.. Today it's all run by corporations, it's Disneyland.. But then again, a "Disneyland" big name corporate run casino doesn't put dead heads in the dessert, either.
I'm usually against corporatization of things in life, but poker sites, I think would actually benefit if they were in fact run by guys like Boyd Gaming, or ceasers.. any of those established names. I'd actually trust it a "little bit" more, just due to accountability. Companies like Full Tilt are like second hand companies, they were only made specifically for online poker. So, you don't have that trust with them as far as, say holding any sense of ethics towards the consumers.
Not to say they're all run out of Zigambodia or whatever. I mean.. c'mon, that's the biggest red flag right there.
I'm just bothered by the lack of principle.. it's a sign of our times. When I hear the song by Jack Johnson "Where have all the good people gone?" I think of online poker.
I stick with the reasoning: "They do it not for money, but because they're losers who are jealous of winners"