A Standard Foldby Andrew Brokos | Published: Jun 14, '12 |
I haven’t played poker since the end of the SCOOP. This morning I had a little time and played about an hour of Rush. The hotel internet left something to be desired, so I just played two tables. The combination of not having played in a while and having no more than two tables going at any time meant that I was really keyed in and focused, and I noticed a lot of little things that I probably don’t do when I’m not paying as much attention. Even though it didn’t turn into a big pot, this hand is a good example of the sort of thing that can actually save you a lot of money when you do it consistently and correctly:
PokerStars – $2 NL (6 max) ZOOM – Holdem – 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com
BTN: $130.84
SB: $77.00
BB: $113.56
UTG: $192.00
MP: $113.10
Hero (CO): $200.00
SB posts SB $1.00, BB posts BB $2.00
Pre Flop: (pot: $3.00) Hero has Kc Ah
UTG raises to $4.00, fold, Hero raises to $12.00, fold, fold, fold, UTG calls $8.00
Flop: ($27.00, 2 players) 2s 2d Ad
UTG checks, Hero bets $18.00, UTG calls $18.00
Turn: ($63.00, 2 players) Qh
UTG bets $30.00, fold
UTG wins $60.20
A Q is surely one of the worst cards in the deck for me. Virtually all of Villain’s range that I can beat should be hoping I check behind the turn, and indeed I often will. So for Villain to take the betting lead away to ensure that a bet goes in on this turn is not a good thing. When I’m an autopilot mode, it’s easy for me to decide to peel one and see what happens on the river, but that’s a 7BB mistake. Paying enough attention to act consistently on this somewhat small and subtle stuff can easily be the different between winning and losing, and it ought to be standard.
Comments
browniebissy
11 months ago
You might be right to fold in this particular spot vs. villain, but if this became a 'standard' fold it would quickly become extremely exploitable. I don't like the usage of the word 'standard' in this situation.
Steven7
11 months ago
I dont think this is a standard fold. You really have to give him AQ or QQ exactly to warrent a fold. It appears to me he has an Ax hand and is trying to push you off a chop. Or he has an Ax hand and $30 is the perfect bet for him to define his hand. If you call or raise, he is likely beat. I dont think he makes this lead with AQ+ here when you have already taken the lead on the 2 previous streets. I think with an AQ+ hand he opts for the c/r.
Steven7
11 months ago
How are you not beating over half his range here?...considering all Ax's, bluffs, and even FPS hands(like 77-JJ) are likely in his range, you are folding getting 3-1 on your money. Considering the stregth you have shown pre and post, this bet looks awefully fishy. You dont think you beat his range 1/3 times here? What are you putting him on (a 2x, QQ, or AQ)?
sets
11 months ago
Agree with the above posters
You forget that its zoom poker also, where people give up easier (he could be assuming you are going to give up easier) - Becasue another hand is around the corner "with better spots to put money in" - some other players mentalities.
WPS22
11 months ago
I could be way off, but I think when he says "standard" he's talking more about his thought process than saying its a standard play to fold AK on 22AQ.
He's saying instead of making an auto pilot call and re evaluating on the river because his hand has strong showdown value, it should be standard to make a better assessment on the turn.
He explained in detail why he felt villain was so strong. I guess you guys disagree w/ that assessment. However, its hard to disagree with the overall point which is you shouldn't just auto call hands with strong showdown value because you think you have to.