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by Andrew Brokos |  Published: Mar 14, '11

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’m posting three hands tonight, all of them against the same Villain. I’d just stacked him for the second time, and after that he bought in for just 30 BB’s, won a sizable pot, and then started donking a lot of flops. In the first two, I made some biggish folds on the river. Despite that, or in fact because of it, I think that I ought to have folded the third as well. I’ll talk about why when we get to it:
PokerStars No-Limit Hold’em, $10 BB (2 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

Hero ($3484)
BB ($455.25)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 7s, Kh.
Hero raises to $20, BB calls $10.

Flop: ($40) 2d, 3d, Kd (2 players)
BB bets $30, Hero calls $30.

Turn: ($100) Qh (2 players)
BB bets $80, Hero calls $80.

River: ($260) Qc (2 players)
BB bets $325.25 (All-In), Hero folds.

Final Pot: $585.25

Results in white below:

BB doesn’t show.

Outcome: BB wins $585.25.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold’em, $10 BB (2 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

Hero ($3373.50)
BB ($564.75)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Jh, 3d.
Hero raises to $20, BB calls $10.

Flop: ($40) 8s, Jc, 6s (2 players)
BB bets $30, Hero calls $30.

Turn: ($100) Td (2 players)
BB bets $80, Hero calls $80.

River: ($260) As (2 players)
BB bets $220, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $480

Results in white below:

BB doesn’t show.

Outcome: BB wins $480.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold’em, $10 BB (2 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

Hero ($3273)
BB ($664.25)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 3d, As.
Hero raises to $20, BB calls $10.

Flop: ($40) 7s, 6s, 8h (2 players)
BB bets $30, Hero calls $30.

Turn: ($100) Ah (2 players)
BB bets $80, Hero calls $80.

River: ($260) Ad (2 players)
BB bets $220, Hero calls $220.

Final Pot: $700

Results in white below:

BB has 9c Th (straight, ten high).

Hero has 3d As (three of a kind, aces).

Outcome: BB wins $700.

Of the three hands, this is the spot where it is by far the hardest for Villain to represent a legitimate hand. Only a really big hand like a flopped straight or set or a really unlikely hand like rivered trips could go three barrels for value here. Any two pair he flopped is now counterfeited. Plus it’s pretty obvious I have at least a pair, and every draw missed. In theory, he ought to bluff in “obviously” bad spots so that I can’t make hero folds like this. In practice, after I’ve folded twice in similar spots very recently, I think it’s unlikely he bluffs here. And despite having trips, I don’t beat anything he’s value betting. I told myself I’d fold if he shoved, but when he didn’t shove, I tilt-called him. Pwned.

It’s cool, though. A few hands later, I got it in with middle pair and a flush draw on the turn against his top pair and spiked to bust him for the third and final time.

Andrew Brokos is a professional poker player, writer, and teacher. He is also an avid hiker and traveler and a passionate advocate for urban public education. You can find dozens of his poker strategy articles at www.thinkingpoker.net/articles and more information about group seminars and one-on-one coaching at www.thinkingpoker.net/coaching.

 
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Comments

L2K4FC
2 years ago

So you said he started "donking" a lot of flops after you had stacked him for the second time. Are you saying he was tilting or is he just a donk in general? Had you played against him before? Did he know you? GG.

 
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Foucault82
2 years ago

Sorry, "donking" is a bit of poker jargon that just means betting into the pre-flop raiser rather than checking to him. I think when people started it using the term, "donking" was something that most good players rarely did (hence the name), but that's changed and though the name has stuck it's no longer meant to be disparaging. In fact, Tom Dwan is well known for donking a lot of flops.

In this case, I definitely don't think Villain was doing it badly. In fact, he owned me in at least one if not all three of these hands.

We didn't have any history prior to this match. It's easy to tell from my avatar that I'm a member of Team PS Online, but I don't know whether he knew anything else about me or not.

Thanks for the questions, and sorry for the confusion.

 
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quest
2 years ago

Andrew, your new home game is in "play Money" did you mean that?

 
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Foucault82
2 years ago

Thanks for pointing that out, but yes that's deliberate. This week's 8-game tournament is deliberately free to enter, but it will still count towards the league standings:

http://www.thinkingpoker.net/2011/03/home-game-standings-and-freeroll-announcement/

 
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schusch
2 years ago

I still dont understand yourfold in the first Hand?Especially if its after you stacked him recently, can you elaborate?I think he could totally barrel air or a Hand like Adx or at least I think your winning alot of the time and mostly losing to low flopped flushes if he was at least 3betting a decent amount.

 
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