Luck Versus Skill in Poker

by Justin Marchand |  Published: Oct 30, 2009

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Is it true that poker is a game of skill? This question was very popular in the past month or so with the courts and also the press.

First, a long legal battle in South Carolina over that very question appears to have come to a close. It’s a case that Card Player has followed closely since five poker players were arrested in a home-game raid back in 2006. The judge in the case said, “Texas hold’em is not gaming or gambling,” and that it was clear to him that poker is “a game of skill,” as opposed to “a game of chance.” For more details, see Page 24.

Next, George Will wrote a great editorial in the Washington Post in August that pressed the skill argument and provided the general public with an introduction to poker and its logic, probability, and game-theory foundation.

Will concluded his column by stating, “Congress probably should fold its interference with Internet gambling and certainly should get its 10 thumbs off Americans’ freedom to exercise their poker skills online.”

He makes a good case that laws against online gaming are pretty silly, considering that the UIGEA “blocked online competitors from poaching gamblers from the nation’s most aggressive promoters of gambling — state governments. They are increasingly addicted to revenue raised by lotteries — the 42 states that have lotteries spent $520 million in 2007 promoting them — and from taxation of other legal gambling.”

There have been several other news and editorial pieces out on this topic recently. The Poker Players Alliance website contains an extensive archive of recent articles if you interested in reading more.

The same “skill versus luck” question was posed to me upon arrival in London for the World Series of Poker Europe event. My cabbie was a budding poker fan who was trying to kick his “fruit machine (the British term for slot machine) habit,” and he said that he heard poker is more skill than luck. He wanted my opinion.

I told my friendly cab driver bloke to take a walk down to the Empire Casino and ask the players still in the tournament how much skill is involved in the game. Six of the nine WSOPE final-table players have WSOP bracelets, and two of the others are part of this year’s WSOP “November Nine.” Case closed.

Another recent tournament series that reinforced the skill argument was the 2009 PokerStars World Championship of Online Poker. It was the largest tournament series ever held online, awarding 45 bracelets and paying out more than $51 million. Online superstars Bertrand “ElkY” Grospellier, Daniel “djk123” Kelly, and Ryan “g0lfa” D’Angelo won multiple bracelets, which helped shape big story lines. Check out the full event report on Page 50. Spade Suit

3 Comments

 

notanidiot
21 days ago

I must say that I am very disappointed in an article written by the publisher that:

In a poker magazine.
In an article titled "Luck versus Skill in Poker."

Completely omits the mention of Billy Baxter and his case that went all the way to the US Supreme Court.

If that article is any indication of the knowledge or experience of the staff at this magazine, then it is not worth the paper it is printed on.

 
 

notanidiot
21 days ago

It is incompetent, uneducated people like Justin Marchand who are responsible for the continuing ban of on-line poker in America. What a crap piece of of so called journalism.

I get a kick out of Jeff making a big stink about tossing his WSOP bracelet in the dumpster should he win. Hey.......... Jeff......... you and your lame ass magazine are tossing the poker world into the dumpster.

These are critical times. And this is the best that Jeff and his magazine can do?

Jeff made a comment to Ivey in one of last episodes of the WSOP. He made a joke referring to Phil as the last woman left in the event.

All I have to say is:

Hey Jeff.... most women I know have more balls, education and talent than you.

I really pisses me off to see such half-assed, pissant twits blow such an important opportunity.

 
 

chipsdaily
10 days ago

i will say that the main event final table did nothing to solidify the argument that poker is a skill game. in fact all of the "skilled" players did poorly and the bad ones did well. with out a doubt poker offers the gambling person more of an edge than any other form of gaming. but it is foolish to not recognize that poker is at least two-thirds luck. i don't care how good you are if you keep getting dealt rags and everyone else around you keeps getting dealt monsters you will be stuck. especially when you finally do get dealt a good hand that doesn't improve.

poker has reached a depressing state. we judge how great a player is by what tournaments they have won. the main event being the super bowl of poker. well there is no one that can make an argument for joe "suckout" cada being the best player in the world. we have to develop a system where we can crown a champion cause what we have isn't it. i'm sorry joe, enjoy the money and the moment, cause your poker game blows. however i will concede that he is a young man and this could perhaps be a good start to a bright future. for his sake i hope it is. but for poker's sake: god help us in washington if play like that is what will get you crowned champion.

 

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